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Keune Care Line Derma Activating Products

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Rejuvenator Technology: Liposomes, Vitamin H, Caffeine and Takanal stimulate the hair growth and increase the number of hairs in the growth phase.

Derma Activating products:

Derma Activating Shampoo: Rejuvenating shampoo for a sensitive scalp and fine, thinning hair. Essential Minerals and Rejuvenator Technology prevent the early stages of hair loss.

Derma Activating Lotion: A cure treatment for temporary hair loss and thinning hair. Rejuvenator Technology penetrates the cells of the scalp where liposomes gradually deliver the Essential Minerals, Biotin and the hair growth stimulants Takanal and Caffeine.

http://www.keune.eu/Derma%20Activating-331.html

http://www.sleekhair.com/23804.html
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The liposomes are what turn me off :-s

Looks good..there's this other line that contains that Takanal: https://www.cliveclinics.com.au/?page_id=74
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I was checking out that Clive Clinics again. Do the first 3 ingreds sound familiar? :-s
All five products contain effective levels of Azeleic Acid, Zinc, Sulphate and Vitamin B6. These levels were found to be the most effective for topically blocking enzyme activity as published in the British Journal of Dermatology (a level of up to 95% inhibition of 5 Alpha reductase was obtained in human skin!).

They also contain varying levels of the ingredient Takanal, quoted in “Amazing Medicines the Drug Companies Don’t Want You To Discover” (1995:209) ‘Takanal demonstrated in a clinical study, 92% effectiveness in growing downy and eventually, coarser hair’.
The British Journal of Dermatology’s publication of the final testing (after eight years of trials) gave the ingredients needed to decrease 5 alpha reductase enzyme activity by up to 95%. These ingredients were added to Aknal in 1990 and named Kankho Stimulant, resulting in improved results being noticed by Clive clients.

Experiments were being conducted during the 90’s in Japan and America using ‘medicinal strengths’ of Takanal increased by 200% and 400%. Clive Clinics in 1996 manufactured Liquid Anagen with 400% increase in Takanal. A water base was used to decrease any possible burning. This product is still very popular with clients who have a low tolerance to alcohol.

In 1997 the water based Liquid Anagen was trialed with the original alcohol formulae, resulting in Kankho 400. This has proven to be a very strong selling product, with excellent results noticed by over 75% of users.

A simple formula, Maxinol, has been in use since 1998 with a 600% increase in Takanal. Used mainly for spots of hair loss (Alopecia Areata, temple recession and small balding crownal loss). Results were very encouraging and no side effects were noticed so in 2001, Kankho 600 was launched, aiming at clients having slow results.
They do have some before/after pics..and you know I can't resist posting them: https://www.cliveclinics.com.au/?page_id=76
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Found an older post at Regrowth from someone who claims to have used it and gotten results. The poster only had a total of 4 posts..so take it with a grain of demodex:
I've been using Kankho 600 (from Clive Clinics in New Zealand) for several years now with pretty decent results (virtually stopped my hair loss, or slowed it ~90% at least). However, I'd like to try adding something a little more potent to their mixture of Azelaic Acid, Zinc, B6, and fillers (Takanal, Polysorbate 20, etc.). I was thinking Dutasteride would be a great additive as it is soluble in Ethanol, which is Kankho's main ingredient.

I know absolutely nothing about compounding or creating a custom concoction like this so I'm hoping someone else who knows much more than I can clue me in as to how effective this might me, and if effective, how to do it and where to get the Dutasteride.

I read where Dutasteride is easily dissolved in Ethanol at 44mg/ml, but I have no idea how many mg’s of Dutasteride I should add to the bottles of Kankho?? The bottles I purchase contain 175ml overall, which usually last me about 6 months using it only at night. That calculates out to about 180 applications, of which I’d want to get at least 1mg of Dutasteride per application, so I guess I’d need ~180mg of Dutasteride. Again, this is all just a best guess from someone who knows absolutely nothing about this.

Anyway, I'd love to get some feedback on this, if it’s possible or just a pipe dream. Thanks!!

-Matt

PS Just so you know, I’ve tried pretty much everything else already going back about 12 years to when I was 19: Topical Minoxidil for a few years (1993 – 1997) until it stopped working, Propecia (1999-2000 I think), which caused a pretty bad hyperandrogenic response, Xandrox (2000), which did absolutely nothing, Dr. Proctors solution (2000-2001) until it pretty much didn’t do anything as well, and was about to give up on it all until I stumbled across Kankho 600 (200 or 400 at the time I think). I’ve been using it since 2001 and can only thank God for it’s effectiveness. I’m not growing all of my hair back, but the persistent march up my scalp has been significantly halted, for which I am very grateful. Back in 2000 or so I was worrying that I’d be a NW 3 or 4 by the time I was 30. Luckily, however, I’ll be 31 in just a couple of months and I’m still hanging onto my NW2 status :)
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One at HLT that had a decent # of posts(my advice to him- ROTATE..wait, I don't give advice :twisted: )
However, I do notice my thinning areas do not itch when I apply the flutagel to them. The day I didn't apply anything at all I noticed a small itch coming back. For me, personally, this is a good sign as in the past an itch was always associated with loss, and no itch was associated with prevention of loss. This was the case for years (about 4 or 5) while I was using Kankho 600 until last year it just sort of lost it's effect for some reason.
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