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I feel I've improved a little, maybe I'm seeing things but that's what it looks like to me. I tried to take pictures but its kinda pointless my camera is not good for that type of thing and the light just reflects off my skull so I cant see anything.
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How long has it been, my results( minimal) are diminishing fastastro_boy wrote:I feel I've improved a little, maybe I'm seeing things but that's what it looks like to me. I tried to take pictures but its kinda pointless my camera is not good for that type of thing and the light just reflects off my skull so I cant see anything.
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driver 52,
yes it stopped almost my hairloss. I lose 10-20 hairs in the shower now. but I guess for the results I should wait 2-4 weeks more. since it takes time after sheddin for the results to show. even the picture in in AGs site you can see the regrowth around week 12 and 15 even though the growth is not much. but you can see the difference around week 12 and 15
yes it stopped almost my hairloss. I lose 10-20 hairs in the shower now. but I guess for the results I should wait 2-4 weeks more. since it takes time after sheddin for the results to show. even the picture in in AGs site you can see the regrowth around week 12 and 15 even though the growth is not much. but you can see the difference around week 12 and 15
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Swimmy what r u up to bro?
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7 weeks, technically i shouldn't even be seeing anything this early so...intricate1 wrote:How long has it been, my results( minimal) are diminishing fastastro_boy wrote:I feel I've improved a little, maybe I'm seeing things but that's what it looks like to me. I tried to take pictures but its kinda pointless my camera is not good for that type of thing and the light just reflects off my skull so I cant see anything.
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let me know if you find these little hairs that won't grow and tend to shed alot thanxastro_boy wrote:7 weeks, technically i shouldn't even be seeing anything this early so...intricate1 wrote:How long has it been, my results( minimal) are diminishing fastastro_boy wrote:I feel I've improved a little, maybe I'm seeing things but that's what it looks like to me. I tried to take pictures but its kinda pointless my camera is not good for that type of thing and the light just reflects off my skull so I cant see anything.
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im not on a&g yet but this is something i noticed also. My hair now is bout an inch long, but often when i massage/shower, hairs that come out are 2 to 3 mm. This has happened over the entire period since i shaved couple of times already. My current treatment is only emu oil, hair signals and niz.
Perhaps the doc can explain the "phenomenon". This small hairs are mostly thin and weak. Either weak hairs are making way for stronger hairs, or the anagen stage is becoming shorter.
Perhaps the doc can explain the "phenomenon". This small hairs are mostly thin and weak. Either weak hairs are making way for stronger hairs, or the anagen stage is becoming shorter.
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shaving your head is a bad idea specially when you have mpb.
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you mean like, with a razor? I buzz mine with a 1 or 2 guard and it's not so bad.mm12 wrote:shaving your head is a bad idea specially when you have mpb.
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So is anybody at a 12 month mark yet? Or have started a second round?
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i'm not using A&G yet (waiting for the Pg-free) but I'd love to try whatever your ON right now!intricate1 wrote:So is anybody at a 12 month mark yet?
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LOL my bad I meant 12 week:)
I'm considering going on propecia 4 months and maintain with A&g what do u guys think?
I'm considering going on propecia 4 months and maintain with A&g what do u guys think?
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propecia will most likely work, it's just that it might come with side effects too, you will probably notice immediate stop in sheds, stronger hair, regrowth even, or at least that was my experience
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Thanks Nate , I guess I will have to deal with the sides for 4 month, I hope I can quit there and apply a&g 2 times a year and make each vile last for 3 applications to maintain as long ass I can! . I can't afford to fly to Florida for prp or have a HT, so maybe this way I can hold on to propecia grown thickened hair via a&g!nate wrote:propecia will most likely work, it's just that it might come with side effects too, you will probably notice immediate stop in sheds, stronger hair, regrowth even, or at least that was my experience
The only thing I can say so far is a&g by itself only decreases shedding!
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buzing is ok but if you shave your head you demage your skin that is what dr alvi armani told me.
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man this thread has real slowed down! Anybody with anything to report?
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mm12 -mm12 wrote:buzing is ok but if you shave your head you demage your skin that is what dr alvi armani told me.
Get a new Doctor - sounds like a quack!
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Hold on don't we shave our face every day?
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I think that Dr. Armani has just lost his credibility.mm12 wrote:buzing is ok but if you shave your head you demage your skin that is what dr alvi armani told me.
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i shaved my head on and off all through my teens, and i can tell you that if you shave your head for a week or two straight, your scalp will start to toughen up pretty well. the first couple of times you do it, your scalp feels soft and almost sticky (kinda like your face felt the very first time you shaved), but after a couple weeks of doing it faithfully, your scalp starts to get leathery. i dont know whether or not this is bad for mpb, but %&$! definitely happens when you shave your head regularly.
I currently use Propecia and i have a Laser comb, what do you guys suggest to use as a good daily shampoo? This HairGen is not going to grow hair cmon guys. Is Nioxin the best out there?
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let's ask dr aq what he thinks about shaving heads
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Anybody results?
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If someone had further results, they would post here or in the results thread. They wouldn't wait for someone to ask, nor would they forget to postintricate1 wrote:Anybody results?
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I'm more interested in the results of members that do not have a prior history with propecia, minox or other similar products as it may have an impact upon results.
I'm interested in the results of Astroboy at this point as I understand he has not used any of the above treatments prior to A&G Hair Complex.
I'm interested in the results of Astroboy at this point as I understand he has not used any of the above treatments prior to A&G Hair Complex.
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hi i also didnt use any other stuff for my hair, i have done the a&g end of martch and still losing long hairs and small hairs and i dont have any results
so 8 weeks after aplication now!!!
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so 8 weeks after aplication now!!!
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propecia or rogaine has nothing to do with ag. some people like my self are over 5-6 years on these drugs. ag is something totally different. if it would work for me I would totally stop rogaine. currently i use rogaine once a day
propecia or rogaine has nothing to do with ag. some people like my self are over 5-6 years on these drugs. ag is something totally different. if it would work for me I would totally stop rogaine. currently i use rogaine once a day
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Rogaine has a negative impact on scalp health, and I don't believe the hair grown is really that healthy, I think that is what fizz is saying. Also, coming off these drugs to use A&G will likley cause more shedding than normal.mm12 wrote:fizball
propecia or rogaine has nothing to do with ag. some people like my self are over 5-6 years on these drugs. ag is something totally different. if it would work for me I would totally stop rogaine. currently i use rogaine once a day
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8 week results
There are none. Lots of shedding still
There are none. Lots of shedding still
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You are right, till this day I don't even know if rogaine has done anything for me, I use it because it make my hair look cosmeticaly thicker but I honestly think it does more damage to my scalp than help. I also read that rogain works by multiplying cells so that could effect the results of the a&g.do you guys know of any thickeners that work good so I don't have to use the rogaine foam anymore?goten574 wrote:Rogaine has a negative impact on scalp health, and I don't believe the hair grown is really that healthy, I think that is what fizz is saying. Also, coming off these drugs to use A&G will likley cause more shedding than normal.mm12 wrote:fizball
propecia or rogaine has nothing to do with ag. some people like my self are over 5-6 years on these drugs. ag is something totally different. if it would work for me I would totally stop rogaine. currently i use rogaine once a day
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Regarding the use of finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral: there is no reason to discount the testimonials of people using these substances per se. It is only if they were recently started/stopped that they would influence the results. Why anyone would be silly enough to stop proven treatments just because they have a religious faith in a new, unproven treatment, when there is no explicit need to do that, is beyond me. Crash courses in logic and dominant strategies of game theory should be mandatory for everyone on this planet...
Remember Dr AQ has stated that there are no interactions with the AGHC when used on different days.
Dr AQ, a piece of advice: do not give the task of managing your website to anyone here, no matter how good they are (no offense, Perga, I have no idea how accomplished you are, but that's beside the point). It's not the professional way to go about it. Have a good, reputable, dedicated, INDEPENDENT, professional web firm do it for you. There are about a million of those. Be clear about your expectations and tell them exactly what you want. Demand timely responses. Be polite but professional and tough in negotiations. If you give the job to someone on these forums, not only will it seem like you don't have things under control, the input of that poster will be considered biased and every discussion will potentially contain an extra element of suspicion. You don't want to risk people starting to wonder if there are shills on the forum.
But you could very well send pictures and any other info to Jacob, Sam or any other reputable poster/mod and have them post the photos here for you, unless you are contractually bound not to release it that way. Or do it yourself, adding photos to a post here is really simple.
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Remember Dr AQ has stated that there are no interactions with the AGHC when used on different days.
Dr AQ, a piece of advice: do not give the task of managing your website to anyone here, no matter how good they are (no offense, Perga, I have no idea how accomplished you are, but that's beside the point). It's not the professional way to go about it. Have a good, reputable, dedicated, INDEPENDENT, professional web firm do it for you. There are about a million of those. Be clear about your expectations and tell them exactly what you want. Demand timely responses. Be polite but professional and tough in negotiations. If you give the job to someone on these forums, not only will it seem like you don't have things under control, the input of that poster will be considered biased and every discussion will potentially contain an extra element of suspicion. You don't want to risk people starting to wonder if there are shills on the forum.
But you could very well send pictures and any other info to Jacob, Sam or any other reputable poster/mod and have them post the photos here for you, unless you are contractually bound not to release it that way. Or do it yourself, adding photos to a post here is really simple.
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If Minoxidil reduces scalp quality and grows unhealthy hair, and A&G aims to restore scalp to a healthy condition, wouldn't the two treatments be fighting each other? It's like building a wall and when the builder leaves, someone comes and partially smashes the wall with a sledgehammer... pointless.p__ wrote:Regarding the use of finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral: there is no reason to discount the testimonials of people using these substances per se. It is only if they were recently started/stopped that they would influence the results. Why anyone would be silly enough to stop proven treatments just because they have a religious faith in a new, unproven treatment, when there is no explicit need to do that, is beyond me.
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If I am going to use the complex and dont have a lazer, is there anything else I can do it make it more effective?
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If I am going to use the complex and dont have a lazer, is there anything else I can do it make it more effective?
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First of all, that minoxidil reduces scalp quality and grows unhealthy hair is unproven speculation. What is not speculation is that is a growth agent that works in general. Nonetheless, let us for the sake of argument disregard its track record of helping millions of men (not including myself for whom it does not work), and assume that it does indeed reduce scalp health. Why would it suddenly be more harmful to your scalp just because you started using AGHC? Again, we are talking about people who have used it for years, whose results from minoxidil would have stabilized. What I am saying is that even under these, highly hypthetical circumstances, the AGHC should improve the condition if it works. If no such improvement is observed, it is reasonable to assume that there is a smaller chance that the AGHC works in general. In essence, there is no reason not to consider the results of long-time users of minoxidil. And certainly not of finasteride users, unless some whacko is claiming that finasteride hurts your scalp as wellgoten574 wrote:If Minoxidil reduces scalp quality and grows unhealthy hair, and A&G aims to restore scalp to a healthy condition, wouldn't the two treatments be fighting each other? It's like building a wall and when the builder leaves, someone comes and partially smashes the wall with a sledgehammer... pointless.p__ wrote:Regarding the use of finasteride/minoxidil/nizoral: there is no reason to discount the testimonials of people using these substances per se. It is only if they were recently started/stopped that they would influence the results. Why anyone would be silly enough to stop proven treatments just because they have a religious faith in a new, unproven treatment, when there is no explicit need to do that, is beyond me.
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There is data that shows that long time minoxidil users who quit, go through a shed, but eventually end up with as much (or little) hair as those who never used it. That basically proves that it does not do permanent damage, if it actually does any damage at all. If it did, the former minoxidil users would be worse off than the non-users.
If you are starting to buy into the theory that minoxidil hurts your scalp, why not just wait a few weeks and hear the reports from users here. If the general consensus is that the AGHC works, then fine, quit everything and get on it. You will have lost nothing. AGA is a condition which takes years to develop. A few weeks is nothing. On the other hand, if you stop your proven treatments and it turns out that the AGHC does not work, you risk going through a shed and permanently lose ground compared to if you hadn't stopped. There is no guarantee that you regrow the hair that minoxidil helped you retain if you quit it and try to take it up later. Also, you'll be $200 shorter.
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I never said it would be more harmful, I said it may be growing hair in a way that is unhealthy and may reverse/undo any potential repair work Hair Complex is trying to do.p__ wrote:Why would it suddenly be more harmful to your scalp just because you started using AGHC?
I didn't say it would do permanent damage if that's what you're thinking. My theory is, Minoxidil grows unhealthy, almost fake hair and your statement above backs up that I believe. It is my understanding that Hair Complex is designed to restore the scalp to normal healthy conditions, using Minoxidil is not healthy and even if that statement is wrong, it's certainly not normal to the scalp. I am just saying it may be possible that the two treatments would go against each other meaning Hair Complex first has to repair the damage (if there is any) that Minoxidil has caused, before it can sort out the MPB (if Hair Complex actually works...)p__ wrote:There is data that shows that long time minoxidil users who quit, go through a shed, but eventually end up with as much (or little) hair as those who never used it. That basically proves that it does not do permanent damage, if it actually does any damage at all. If it did, the former minoxidil users would be worse off than the non-users.
It is pointless to debate this, neither of us know how Minoxidil works in relation to hair growth, not even the people who developed it... we're just guessing.
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My post was merely an observation of the possibility that some of the results we are seeing are variating based on the fact that some people have used or continue to use other products which may have an impact on the performance of the product (A&G Hair complex) be it positive or negative.
Its hard for me to form any solid conclusions based on the above however I do enjoy reading the findings and results regardless.
I do recall reading here somewhere that Jacob mentioned that similar products have been discovered to result in only short term results and requires constant follow up treatments to maintain continuous growth and maintenance which is contrary to the Dr's beliefs on his own product therefore the question becomes is there any solid proof apart from here say that the results are lasting and HC is a one time treatment because from what I can gather from various threads on the topic is that users are starting to see a decline in growth and an increase in shedding after the 1st round of treatment is completely finished.
If ppl are happy using minox or propecia like products than I'm happy for you and wish you a full head of hair but for those that aren't keen on a constant routine of applications for the rest of your life then I hope A&G can live up to its claims and give us another viable option aside from the above. I'm guessing most people are here to find something better therefore the above big two aren't really satisfying anymore.
Its hard for me to form any solid conclusions based on the above however I do enjoy reading the findings and results regardless.
I do recall reading here somewhere that Jacob mentioned that similar products have been discovered to result in only short term results and requires constant follow up treatments to maintain continuous growth and maintenance which is contrary to the Dr's beliefs on his own product therefore the question becomes is there any solid proof apart from here say that the results are lasting and HC is a one time treatment because from what I can gather from various threads on the topic is that users are starting to see a decline in growth and an increase in shedding after the 1st round of treatment is completely finished.
If ppl are happy using minox or propecia like products than I'm happy for you and wish you a full head of hair but for those that aren't keen on a constant routine of applications for the rest of your life then I hope A&G can live up to its claims and give us another viable option aside from the above. I'm guessing most people are here to find something better therefore the above big two aren't really satisfying anymore.
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minox grows good hairs like in my case. but unfortunately i have to use it more than twice a day. the other thing is that it makes me older than my age. so I prefer not to use it more than once a day. when you scroll down the page you can see my 10 weeks results. in about 3 months my crowns has no see through with 3-4 times a day of minox. currently i am using rogaine and remox
minox grows good hairs like in my case. but unfortunately i have to use it more than twice a day. the other thing is that it makes me older than my age. so I prefer not to use it more than once a day. when you scroll down the page you can see my 10 weeks results. in about 3 months my crowns has no see through with 3-4 times a day of minox. currently i am using rogaine and remox
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i mean to say that I am currently using rogaine and not remox
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"Normal" is a word which doesn't carry any value, good or bad. Hair loss is normal. Pacemakers are not normal. The AGHC is not normal. And so on.goten574 wrote:I didn't say it would do permanent damage if that's what you're thinking. My theory is, Minoxidil grows unhealthy, almost fake hair and your statement above backs up that I believe. It is my understanding that Hair Complex is designed to restore the scalp to normal healthy conditions, using Minoxidil is not healthy and even if that statement is wrong, it's certainly not normal to the scalp. I am just saying it may be possible that the two treatments would go against each other meaning Hair Complex first has to repair the damage (if there is any) that Minoxidil has caused, before it can sort out the MPB (if Hair Complex actually works...)
There is no data backing the statement that minoxidil is bad for the scalp in general. The data actually indicate that there is no detrimental effect on hair/scalp (see previous post). The fact that minoxidil can make "unhealthy" follicles grow hair does not mean that it makes follicles unhealthy. That is a fallacy.
Just so that I understand, are you disagreeing that
a) continuing minox/fin/niz and not buying the AGHC awaiting the forum results is a superior (weakly dominating) strategy compared to quitting them and getting on the AGHC right away?
b) reports from long term fin/minox/niz users can be valuable in determining the efficacy of the AGHC given that no change in these treatment occurs?
(or both of the above or none of the above?)
Sure, I agree that it is possible and I concur with the rest you said in the last post as well. I would have to say that I think the impact of the other substances on the AGHC results is very limited, though, not least because the Dr himself says so. The notion that finasteride would somehow interfere with the AGHC seems very far fetched at this point, as I'm sure you'd agree.Fizzball wrote:My post was merely an observation of the possibility that some of the results we are seeing are variating based on the fact that some people have used or continue to use other products which may have an impact on the performance of the product (A&G Hair complex)...
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Hey guys,
How are you doing?
I am sorry I have been quite busy at work lately and didn't have to much time to post.
I finished my A&G treatment at the beginning of May, so 4 weeks for me more or less.
In am regrowing tons of small pigmented hairs in my hairline and my right temple (the evil one).
Had some shedding at my crown that have already stopped. I noticed that the hairs that falls from time to time are stronger.
In generall all my hair is thicker.
Pre A&G I was using Spectral DNC 2 times a day. Now I am not using anything, just waiting, lol
After reading some posts I feel like we have used different products, because it' s working quite nice and fast for me.
Anyway I have always be a good responder to any MPB treatment.
I will come back and report in a few weeks.
Cheers,
Aviador
How are you doing?
I am sorry I have been quite busy at work lately and didn't have to much time to post.
I finished my A&G treatment at the beginning of May, so 4 weeks for me more or less.
In am regrowing tons of small pigmented hairs in my hairline and my right temple (the evil one).
Had some shedding at my crown that have already stopped. I noticed that the hairs that falls from time to time are stronger.
In generall all my hair is thicker.
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Pre A&G I was using Spectral DNC 2 times a day. Now I am not using anything, just waiting, lol
After reading some posts I feel like we have used different products, because it' s working quite nice and fast for me.
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Anyway I have always be a good responder to any MPB treatment.
I will come back and report in a few weeks.
Cheers,
Aviador
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Normal I mean as in a healthy scalp, when you have MPB, I don't class that as normal nor healthy. Yes, MPB is extremely common, but I consider common and normal two different words with two different meanings.p__ wrote: "Normal" is a word which doesn't carry any value, good or bad. Hair loss is normal. Pacemakers are not normal. The AGHC is not normal. And so on.
I don't care on information, I am going on what I've read on hair forums and websites. I hear some minoxidil users saying prior to A&G treatment, they didn't consider their scalp health that bad. When using A&G, they really felt what a healthy scalp is. I've also heard people say their hair/scalp felt like crap after using minoxidil regardless of using A&G or not. I have to say in my opinion, minoxidil reduces scalp health. Although I can't prove this and I have no evidence, you can't prove I'm wrong either (if you can... do it), so it's pointless going on, let's agree to disagree.p__ wrote:There is no data backing the statement that minoxidil is bad for the scalp in general.
I don't know why you are talking about fin, it doesn't affect hair follices or the scalp, it just reduces overall DHT in the body. I consider niz bad for the scalp but not as bad as minoxidil. Why do I think it's bad? It drys the scalp and that's not healthy. For Minoxidil, if you've been using it for a long time but then quit it for good to use Hair Complex, you should expect to see a lot of shedding in the next month or so. If you use use Minoxidil and Hair Complex together, I would still say Hair Complex would try fight that peach fuzz hair you've been growing with Minoxidil. I may be wrong, I have no evidence, only expressing my opinion, if you don't like it, continue to disagree.p__ wrote: Just so that I understand, are you disagreeing that
a) continuing minox/fin/niz and not buying the AGHC awaiting the forum results is a superior (weakly dominating) strategy compared to quitting them and getting on the AGHC right away?
b) reports from long term fin/minox/niz users can be valuable in determining the efficacy of the AGHC given that no change in these treatment occurs?
(or both of the above or none of the above?)
I don't know what existing users of Minoxidil should do if they want to use Hair Complex, it's their choice.
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Yes my results at the 4 week mark were great also( not including the crown which never had improvements) little hairs that popped up never got longer and still are shedding like crazy and I had to go back to using rogaine foam on my vertex again because of the way it makes my hair look but now I'm shedding again. mm12 what do you mean rogaine made you look OLD?
If heard of fin doing that but minox?
If heard of fin doing that but minox?
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Then why did you say "it's not normal to the scalp" as some sort of negative statement about minoxidil?goten574 wrote:Normal I mean as in a healthy scalp, when you have MPB, I don't class that as normal nor healthy. Yes, MPB is extremely common, but I consider common and normal two different words with two different meanings.p__ wrote: "Normal" is a word which doesn't carry any value, good or bad. Hair loss is normal. Pacemakers are not normal. The AGHC is not normal. And so on.
Then you're bound to get lost in endless speculation, conspiracy theories, misinformation, rumors and superstition. As I'm sure you've noticed, none of the somewhat helpful medical advances were made on internet forums, neither regarding hair loss nor anything else for that matter. Oddly, they where made using sound science and double blind placebo controlled studies.goten574 wrote:I don't care on information, I am going on what I've read on hair forums and websites.p__ wrote:There is no data backing the statement that minoxidil is bad for the scalp in general.
That could easily be because of the alcohol/pg vehicle, not because of minxodil itself. Not to mention placebo, which could easily make people feel "healthy" on the AGHC. I can't remember how many reports I've read from people saying things like "it makes my scalp feel good" or "I can feel it working" about various products which in the end did nothing for their hair loss. It is a typical placebo reaction from users wanting it to work. It has become something of a running joke in the hair loss community. If I slapped some skin moisturizing cream on peoples' heads, claiming it was helpful for hair loss, I would get many reports of that nature, for sure.goten574 wrote:I hear some minoxidil users saying prior to A&G treatment, they didn't consider their scalp health that bad. When using A&G, they really felt what a healthy scalp is. I've also heard people say their hair/scalp felt like crap after using minoxidil regardless of using A&G or not. I have to say in my opinion, minoxidil reduces scalp health.
Ever heard of the flying spaghetti monster...goten574 wrote:Although I can't prove this and I have no evidence, you can't prove I'm wrong either (if you can... do it)
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Sure. You are certainly entitled to your opinion!goten574 wrote:let's agree to disagree.
Because the statement by Fizz which started this debate was about fin as well as minox if you remember. Look, I'm just trying to understand what exactly you are disagreeing on.goten574 wrote:I don't know why you are talking about fin, it doesn't affect hair follices or the scalp, it just reduces overall DHT in the body.
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I never stated what I believe to be fact, it is just speculation and I don't need to prove anything to anyone. The big 3 were all discovered by accident, a side effect of the treatment, I hardly call that sound scienece.
You make some good points but I'm sticking with my idea that Minoxidil is no good to scalp health and if I'm right, it would be working against Hair Complex.
You make some good points but I'm sticking with my idea that Minoxidil is no good to scalp health and if I'm right, it would be working against Hair Complex.
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Finasteride wasn't discovered by accident. Doctor's knew about the role DHt has on hair follices, so they decided to create Propecia.
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Fair enough.goten574 wrote:I never stated what I believe to be fact, it is just speculation and I don't need to prove anything to anyone.
Finasteride was created specifically to block androgens to treat another androgen dependent condition, namely prostate enlargement. It was not an accident, it was sound science. Do you think that anything but science put together a synthetic 5a reductase inhibitor? The fact that there are other androgen dependent conditions which sparked the scientists' interest during the development does not mean that it was accidental.goten574 wrote:The big 3 were all discovered by accident, a side effect of the treatment, I hardly call that sound scienece.
And even though minoxidil was not used to treat AGA, nor any androgen related disease, it was scientifically engineered (to treat high blood pressure). The fact that it came as a surprise that it grew hair as well, does not mean it's creation was anything but highly scientific.
And sound science was used when assessing, investigating and getting them to market in an effective vehicle and in safe and effective doses.
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I`m over 8 weeks now and still no results, dont believe the YEAH BABY is coming. Still no photo`s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My opinion?
SCAM
I`m out!!!
My opinion?
SCAM
I`m out!!!
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rogaine works the best for me. but I have to use it more than the recommended dose but some how I have rough skin,puffy eyes and face,more facial and body hair. so that is why I reduced it to once a day. I used to use it 3-4 times a day. remox was so expensive to use. first I thought that remox works better than rogaine but later I found out that using minox more than once a day makes you have more hairs. that is why I switched back to rogaine which is way cheaper than remox.
rogaine works the best for me. but I have to use it more than the recommended dose but some how I have rough skin,puffy eyes and face,more facial and body hair. so that is why I reduced it to once a day. I used to use it 3-4 times a day. remox was so expensive to use. first I thought that remox works better than rogaine but later I found out that using minox more than once a day makes you have more hairs. that is why I switched back to rogaine which is way cheaper than remox.
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I will wait for about 3 more weeks. I haven't given up hope on ag yet.
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Hello everyone..
Just got back today and wanted to stop by and say hello. I have lots to read and will do my best to answer all Qs/ concerns/ accusations. The tour was a success and because I think of you guys as a family I will share pics of the trip with you (when I get them). This link shows articles covering the korean part (don't ask me what it says)
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Good night !!
Just got back today and wanted to stop by and say hello. I have lots to read and will do my best to answer all Qs/ concerns/ accusations. The tour was a success and because I think of you guys as a family I will share pics of the trip with you (when I get them). This link shows articles covering the korean part (don't ask me what it says)
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