Hello to my fellow hair loss sufferers,
I was hoping for some advice. At the moment my regimen is xandrox 5 and xandrox 15 at night. Recently however i felt im still losing hair, so someone suggested i should add an anti androgen. Perhaps spironolactone, is this effective and does it have side effects? i read on google its found to be tumorogenic in rats, probably in the oral form only but it still made me sceptical about adding it to my regimen.
Sam why is it you use revivogen and not spironolactone?
Plus isn't the azelaic acid found in xandrox not good at inhibiting the DHT ?
I've also heard of another anti androgen DHT inhibitor Alpicort F. Perhaps Sam you should have a look into that if you have time. Just type it in google.
Yours gratefully and good luck,
Dod
Spironolactone or revivogen ?
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I just have to say that whatever I suggest is just my opinion. 
I would recommend going for the topical spiro. The reasons for this is that Revivogen contains azelaic and, in my experience, too much azelaic acid can really irritate the scalp. Of course it may not do this to your scalp.
If you decide to go for the spiro, then I would recommend getting it at http://www.minoxidil.com from Dr. Lee. He sells a 5% spiro cream and a 2% spiro liquid. The 5% is really good for applying to the hair line and other areas that have really sparse hair. It is difficult to apply the 5% cream to areas with lots of hair as it is challenging to get it on the scalp only and not the hair.
The other benefit to the 5% spiro is that it is really soothing on the scalp and does not cause irritation. Topical spiro definitely helps with male pattern baldness.
I would not worry about any side effects from it. If you go to Dr. Lee's site there is a lot of info about about it and if you ask him a question right here on the site I am sure he would get back to you fairly quickly.
I just googled Alpicort F and I can't really come to any conclusions about it. I have not heard about it on any forums. You never know though, it could be something great that we just do not know about. As for now I would stick to more well-known treatments.
I would recommend going for the topical spiro. The reasons for this is that Revivogen contains azelaic and, in my experience, too much azelaic acid can really irritate the scalp. Of course it may not do this to your scalp.
If you decide to go for the spiro, then I would recommend getting it at http://www.minoxidil.com from Dr. Lee. He sells a 5% spiro cream and a 2% spiro liquid. The 5% is really good for applying to the hair line and other areas that have really sparse hair. It is difficult to apply the 5% cream to areas with lots of hair as it is challenging to get it on the scalp only and not the hair.
The other benefit to the 5% spiro is that it is really soothing on the scalp and does not cause irritation. Topical spiro definitely helps with male pattern baldness.
I would not worry about any side effects from it. If you go to Dr. Lee's site there is a lot of info about about it and if you ask him a question right here on the site I am sure he would get back to you fairly quickly.
I just googled Alpicort F and I can't really come to any conclusions about it. I have not heard about it on any forums. You never know though, it could be something great that we just do not know about. As for now I would stick to more well-known treatments.
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Thanks for the quick reply James.
I believe alpicort F in quite popular out in eastern europe and germany. Its relatively cheap i had a look into it. And i believe its an oestrogen based solution. I wanted to try it but unfortunately it has propylene glycol which irritates my scalp. I'll let you know if i hear any good reviews about it, one of my friends has just started to use it.
I think i will try the spiro, does it cause any inital shedding ?
By the way how's the lasercomb treating you ?
I believe alpicort F in quite popular out in eastern europe and germany. Its relatively cheap i had a look into it. And i believe its an oestrogen based solution. I wanted to try it but unfortunately it has propylene glycol which irritates my scalp. I'll let you know if i hear any good reviews about it, one of my friends has just started to use it.
I think i will try the spiro, does it cause any inital shedding ?
By the way how's the lasercomb treating you ?
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James
Shedding is always something that can happen when adding a treatment to your regimen but I do not think that it is as likely with spiro because spiro is not stimulating any new hair growth, it is just dealing with the dht problem instead.
I am very impressed by the lasercomb. I have grown hair on my hairline due to using it. Overall I think that it is a great product especially if you have a sensitive scalp. The downside is the price and the amount of time you have to spend using it.
I am very impressed by the lasercomb. I have grown hair on my hairline due to using it. Overall I think that it is a great product especially if you have a sensitive scalp. The downside is the price and the amount of time you have to spend using it.
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Dod, sorry for the very late reply. I haven't been able to participate in the forums for a while due to some pressing personal matters.Sam why is it you use revivogen and not spironolactone?
Plus isn't the azelaic acid found in xandrox not good at inhibiting the DHT ?
Anyway, to be clear, other than some shampoos, I am not using any topicals currently for my hair loss. I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin that is prone to inflammation, and I have developed a condition called folliculitis that seems to be aggravated by just about any topical that I have tried (barring InFlamil which helped get it under control).
For most people that don't have this problem, some topicals are still good to use to try to keep your hair loss under control. I was ironically a good responder to topicals when it came to regrowth, but the scalp irritation and inflammation got to a point where I had to stop...
The lasercomb is what I have been using in their place. It has been surprisingly quite effective at least from the standpoint of thickening the existing hair and helping to keep the inflammation in check. I'm also doing a whole bunch of other things that are good for your overall health, that seem to be having a positive effect on my scalp as well.
Now, as to your questions. When I WAS using topicals, I used revivogen because it absorbed very well, and it had a whole bunch of natural ingredients as opposed to spiro, which is a drug. The spiro is highly effective though. As for the azeleic acid, I am neutral on it. I used Xandrox for the minox in them, and for the fact that they were of higher quality overall than other minox products I had used. I'm not sure whether Azeleic acid is a good inhibitor of DHT in vivo.