Im in the middle of experiementing with a skull shaping device. Anyway i need to make a mould of my scalp (the mpb area) that is strong enough to have continuess pressure applied to it.
I remember overmachogrande making a tin foil mould with multiple layers and was wondering if that would work with 20+ layers as his was still a bit flexible i think?
Anyway id like to mould my scalp and then apply a thin layer of rubber to where i can feel the skull is expanding. (for example... right where my temles have receded have lumps that have expanded a few millimeters.)
Its possible i could use something similar to my skull shape but i plan to use this for 3-6months so i can tell if it is working so id like to mould it perfect if possible.
Any help or ideas would be great
Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
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Re: Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
i have recently seen a podiatrist for feet/posture/nerve problems, and they are making orthotics for me which are just insoles, but customized for my feet, as i have an inflamed nerve causing electrical type pain up my leg.
irrelavant?, perhaps, but they make them by first making a cast using quick setting flexible plaster, im sure youll be able to find the smae thing for sale somewhere. this is called a negative casting. they then use that casting to make a model of ur feet by filling it with plaster, (called a positive cast)then use the model of the feet to make the orthotics.
u could do the same with ur head, but youll need someone to help u so u dont suffocate, and youll have to either do half at a time, or punch nose holes, and a brething tube while it sets, then have someone cut it off u, join it back up, fill with plaster, get a mold of ur head, then make ur device. dont forget some layers of plastic underneath so u dont rip ur skin and hair off.
its a bit of work, but if u understand wat im talking about, this is the way alot of devices are customized to ur body!
once u have a model of ur head, u can safely try all the devices u want!
i suggest u do some research on the correct plaster combination to use for the positive cast, and the negative cast.
it will need to be flexible, but solid, for the negative, and probably just solid for the positive. theres probably companies that specialize in this, that also sell ballistics gel, (like on mythbusters) !
good luck!
irrelavant?, perhaps, but they make them by first making a cast using quick setting flexible plaster, im sure youll be able to find the smae thing for sale somewhere. this is called a negative casting. they then use that casting to make a model of ur feet by filling it with plaster, (called a positive cast)then use the model of the feet to make the orthotics.
u could do the same with ur head, but youll need someone to help u so u dont suffocate, and youll have to either do half at a time, or punch nose holes, and a brething tube while it sets, then have someone cut it off u, join it back up, fill with plaster, get a mold of ur head, then make ur device. dont forget some layers of plastic underneath so u dont rip ur skin and hair off.
its a bit of work, but if u understand wat im talking about, this is the way alot of devices are customized to ur body!
once u have a model of ur head, u can safely try all the devices u want!
i suggest u do some research on the correct plaster combination to use for the positive cast, and the negative cast.
it will need to be flexible, but solid, for the negative, and probably just solid for the positive. theres probably companies that specialize in this, that also sell ballistics gel, (like on mythbusters) !
good luck!
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Re: Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
Cue I think that would be the cheapest way and if you use a good quality glue it will be very rigid. In OMGs instructions I think he used something like rubber cement (can't remember though). But the more you layer the foil the better. 20 layers of foil with some good quick dry epoxy would make for a pretty sturdy helmet.
I just thought something, hope it makes sense. I am assuming this theory is sound so we can figure out your experiment, so everyone who has something bad to post back off
Well here goes... assuming that this is correct, your skull has already expanded a little bit, hence the bumps you mentioned. If you make a mold of your scalp right now all it is going to do is make it so that your skull doesn't expand any further. What I was thinking of, is that you may want to locate the areas of interest, i.e. the bumps near your temples and reinforce them with extra layers on the inside of your mold. This will create a negative, downward pressure on these bumps that would be mild but hopefully enough.
To do this all you would do is mark the location of the bumps on the inside of the helmet. Then you would glue probably an extra 10 layers of foil that are only the size of the bumps (make sense?). Basically it would be probably an inch in diameter circle glued to the area of interest. In the future to increase this all you would have to do would be to keep increasing the layers in this spot. Lastly for this to be effective you will want some kind of a built in chin strap so that this mold fits tight. Otherwise this won't work at all.
I find this theory slightly interesting as I have experienced something similar to you. During college I went through a bout of extreme headaches and saw all kinds of doctors about it including a chiropractor. Even before researching all this hairloss stuff I noticed that the area of my headaches correlated with some of the joints in the skull. Interestingly enough after this time period I too have these small bumps, two of them right by the temple areas. Lastly on a friend of mine who is completely bald he has two very pronounced bumps, more so than mine, right in the same spots. Who knows what this means but I find it interesting nonetheless.
I just thought something, hope it makes sense. I am assuming this theory is sound so we can figure out your experiment, so everyone who has something bad to post back off
Well here goes... assuming that this is correct, your skull has already expanded a little bit, hence the bumps you mentioned. If you make a mold of your scalp right now all it is going to do is make it so that your skull doesn't expand any further. What I was thinking of, is that you may want to locate the areas of interest, i.e. the bumps near your temples and reinforce them with extra layers on the inside of your mold. This will create a negative, downward pressure on these bumps that would be mild but hopefully enough.
To do this all you would do is mark the location of the bumps on the inside of the helmet. Then you would glue probably an extra 10 layers of foil that are only the size of the bumps (make sense?). Basically it would be probably an inch in diameter circle glued to the area of interest. In the future to increase this all you would have to do would be to keep increasing the layers in this spot. Lastly for this to be effective you will want some kind of a built in chin strap so that this mold fits tight. Otherwise this won't work at all.
I find this theory slightly interesting as I have experienced something similar to you. During college I went through a bout of extreme headaches and saw all kinds of doctors about it including a chiropractor. Even before researching all this hairloss stuff I noticed that the area of my headaches correlated with some of the joints in the skull. Interestingly enough after this time period I too have these small bumps, two of them right by the temple areas. Lastly on a friend of mine who is completely bald he has two very pronounced bumps, more so than mine, right in the same spots. Who knows what this means but I find it interesting nonetheless.
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Re: Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
thanks for the post hapyman. You basically said exactly what is in my mind and what i plan to do so thanks for clarifying it for me. Well if all is true according the the ebook than the bone after only a few months will have started changing shape and he also states that it only takes a small amount to bring alot of hair regrowth so hopefully my more extreme approach will work. Anyway give me a few months and hopefully i can bring everyone a nice little chrristmas present =)
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Re: Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
Cue did you get my PM? Check your inbox THanks 
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Re: Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
Im still having trouble if anyone can help.
I need to make a mould of my scalp that covers the whole norwood 6/7 mpb area and also covers the forhead and down the sides burns.
The mould also has to be VERY solid as it will have to withstand a fare bit of pulling and pushing pressure.
Im really stuck on how to do this as i can only find plaster mould 'how to' videos on the net.
Any ideas would really help
I need to make a mould of my scalp that covers the whole norwood 6/7 mpb area and also covers the forhead and down the sides burns.
The mould also has to be VERY solid as it will have to withstand a fare bit of pulling and pushing pressure.
Im really stuck on how to do this as i can only find plaster mould 'how to' videos on the net.
Any ideas would really help
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Re: Making a mould of the scalp (help needed) OVERMACHO?
I would try using aluminum foil and glue. Make multiple layers until it is as rigid as you want it.