Crescina Stem Re-Growth

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:08 pm

You pay via Paypal though...which is a secure site.

MG63 · Post by **MG63** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:11 pm

not sure I understand the comment.

Pharmamundi requires customer to register - the registration process is not across a secure link. So name, address, user-name, password are all open.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:31 pm

I just don't see a problem with that. There are tons of sites that don't have that "secure" logo on the bottom of your website when you go there to sign up for something..start the ordering process(especially if they use Paypal)..etc. It's the cc area I'd be concerned about.

But maybe someone knows of another..reasonably priced...shop that does have that setup.

I'm a bit confused though. Your post earlier made it sound like you already ordered from them...

MG63 · Post by **MG63** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:59 pm

I picked it up in italy - it is sold in the pharmacies.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:15 pm

Per the ordering - my order arrived in 5 days.

hopeful19 · Post by **hopeful19** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:09 pm

How long does each box last?
Is this supposed to be used on a continual basis?

MG63 · Post by **MG63** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:19 am

Jacob -- what does is "cc" . I've been alternating Crescina 700 Stem Cell and Dermaheal nightly with some good results.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:47 am

I think he's referring to credit card.

So that Crescina Stem is a box of 12 -3 ml vials? I see it advertised for around $200... is that around what you paid, if you don't mind me asking? Are you using the 3 ml entirely per application or are you stretching the vials out for multiple applications each? Thanks.

MG63 · Post by **MG63** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:28 am

I use the 3ml for each application. In speaking with the rep from Lebo, she indicated that once the plant stem cells are mixed with the regrowth formula, the entire contained must be used, which is why the products are stored separately.

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:18 pm

So your suppose to use this stuff everyday and you use the whole vial a night? If so they only give you 12 vials for 200 bucks? I'm still a little confused about how to use this stuff.

hopeful19 · Post by **hopeful19** » Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:53 pm

MG63 wrote:Jacob -- what does is "cc" . I've been alternating Crescina 700 Stem Cell and Dermaheal nightly with some good results.

Are you using Crescina 700 or 500 as you have stated previously?
Are you alternating days when using Crescina and Dermaheal?
How many cycles of Crescina did you go through to experience some results?
What is the extent of your results?

Thank You

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:19 pm

Can someone tell me how to use this stuff please

intricate1 · Post by **intricate1** » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 pm

Please keep us posted of your results, I don't care if it's expensive if I ever cure my hairloss I'll be in a master card comercial because after spending so much money it still would be Priceless.
I would be nw6 if I didn't do anything so everything helps

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:34 am

ChuckP wrote:Can someone tell me how to use this stuff please

Here is how I use it.

Day one I use the clear vial
Day two I inject the amber vial with .5 of the plant cells.
Day 3 is a day off
Day 4 is the clear vial
Day 5 is the amber vial with the plant cells
Day 6 is a day off.....and so on and so on....

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:25 pm

So you use the whole vial at once?

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:00 pm

I just received my box of 700 hair loss and regrowth. So the stem cell regrowth you have to use the whole vial, do you need to use the whole vial of the anti-hair loss treatment? Also does this stuff have any special storage like keep refrigerated? I can't seem to find any.

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:03 pm

Is this OK to use with Lasering?

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:36 pm

ChuckP wrote:I just received my box of 700 hair loss and regrowth. So the stem cell regrowth you have to use the whole vial, do you need to use the whole vial of the anti-hair loss treatment? Also does this stuff have any special storage like keep refrigerated? I can't seem to find any.

ChuckP

I am using a full vial each time. I did call the company and they said a half a vial could be used depending on the hairloss. I store in a dark spot at slightly below room temp.

I use a laser on the off days.

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:45 pm

OK thanks

kamisama · Post by **kamisama** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 6:11 pm

So a box of 12 vials, used alternate days, will last you for 24 days. We are supposed to be using it for 2 months right? That will need 2 box at least?

MG63 · Post by **MG63** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:46 am

per the versions -- I've been mixing the 500 and 700 regrowth formula. This is because of my travels I was only able to find certain versions. With Pharmamundi carrying the entire line of products, and soon the shampoo (which I've found to be excellent) i can stay with 500.

For those interested in the use I suggest sending an email to Labo, they are very responsive.

Ciao

doke · Post by **doke** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:05 am

it all seems a bit too much,the cost is silly and they do not have the success rate of topical minoxidil foam,i have tried most things and came to the conclusion that many hair loss doctors will tell you,that the only thing to work at this time is the propecia,minoxidil so do not waste your money there is no natural product that will regrow hair,only may help if used with minox.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:54 am

I disagree doke. Too many aren't relying on the "Big 3" because they're not doing what they'd like. I and others have done just fine with naturals- may be more expensive but again..there are reasons why we've gone this route.

doke · Post by **doke** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:36 am

hi jacob for the info on the other site,but i have tried so many natural topicals and orals that if they had worked i would have a head of hair back this al stems over 25 years i have been battling against mpb,and the only things that have ever helped were minoxidil+progesterone 5% and finasteride,which any of you here do not want to hear.
Like you guys i would have loved for these naturals to work,but i am very sceptical know having spent so much money over the years,i myself do not use finasteride or dutas anymore,but i do use a product called maxogain rx which is better than any minox i have used before as it does contain some naturals in it,and also it does not make my scalp itch and is very cooling on the scalp,i use the la science shampoo and also just started with a natural progestorone topical as i am getting regrowth after being on max for 3 months,just watch wasting your money.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:56 am

I don't mind hearing what's working for you. But maybe you don't like hearing what's working for us?

I'm not sure what you've used over all those years...how long with each product..etc. I just think some of the newer things that have come out hold more promise than the stuff from years past..or even the Tricomins and Folligens of the world that came out 8 years or so ago. That and ppl need to stick with things for a good year or so.

And btw..I didn't say this route is cheaper

doke · Post by **doke** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:52 am

Jacob wrote:I don't mind hearing what's working for you. But maybe you don't like hearing what's working for us? I'm not sure what you've used over all those years...how long with each product..etc. I just think some of the newer things that have come out hold more promise than the stuff from years past..or even the Tricomins and Folligens of the world that came out 8 years or so ago. That and ppl need to stick with things for a good year or so.

And btw..I didn't say this route is cheaper

hi jacob i may have to eat my words,as i have been in contact with simonetta and the stem cell crescina i may try as i thought you had to use this with the other products making it expensive,but i was wrong and you only have to use stemcell in my case 700 and the shampoo if you want to,so i would like to be proved wrong when i use it,its only after the a&g serum which was expensive we have a right to be scepticle.

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:45 am

Any update on this from anyone?

davetherave · Post by **davetherave** » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:36 am

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:28 pm

What the bump? Are you guys drinking this stuff or

Unless Elsom comes out with the apple stem cells..by spring..I'll probably be going off(slowly) of Lamas' product to this or the phyto one. It has to do with my rotation obsessation. I want to at least keep the apple stem cells in the next product I use in the A.M.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:18 pm

Let me guess..no one stuck with this either

Killa · Post by **Killa** » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:38 pm

Jacob, my man.... give it up.

We lost.

Its over.

The battle in fighting mpb through natural means is a lost cause. Im playing for the other team now. Ive given in to the darkside of meds

.

At one point a couple of years ago when first trying to fight Hairloss, this site was the best thing to me. Now it doesnt matter. It was all for nothing.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:16 am

I disagree..there are plenty using "meds" that don't get anywhere either. The problem I'm seeing is that ppl are not sticking with things long enough, and/or should be using a variety of things. This thread is yet another example of that.

Many of the things being posted around here are not actually "natural"..like we would say plant extracts are "natural". As you can tell..I'm not just sticking with the plant-based things either.

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:05 pm

For whats it's worth, I find this to be excellent. I do find many tiny hairs that I just can't seem to get to "mature" with Crescina.

The price keeps me away, but I do end up coming back. It is pricey!

In some respects I guess this does prove Jacob's point about having to stick with a product.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:55 pm

Thanks for the update mitcky. Whenever I see hairs like that I keep thinking of getting on FNS again. Not that it works for every "tiny hair"..but it was probably the best thing for 'em..for me. I used that stuff a long long time..kinda wish I would have stuck with it since it didn't have to be used daily(after a certain # of daily applications). My excuse back then was my rotation fixation...Elsom had come out with their Formulator so I had 'em whip up something to replace FNS with.

Pete2 · Post by **Pete2** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:40 pm

"Crescina Stem vials contain Crescina Re-Growth core ingredients (Cysteine, Lysine, Glycoprotein), Diguanosine TP and Prolifex, the Isofol complex and a special substance, the Polyphitic Factor, suitable to prepare the hair bulb to receive the Active Plant Stem Cells."

Do you get the the feeling that hairgrowth formulas are getting increasingly complicated.

Im still working on the idea its as simple as inflammation,bloodflow,regeneration

Pete

doke · Post by **doke** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:10 am

jacob have you tried aminexil as there is a guy on you tube that has used vichy dercos energy, and he says he has hair like he did when 25,although i do not know how old he is now?
He says it has regrown his hairline and will keep using the spray. :-"

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:57 am

I don't think I've used anything that contains it.
The stuff you mentioned looks like it could be used in the morning..as a hair styling aid as well.

doke · Post by **doke** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:13 am

hey jacob remember that zenna topical 183 msm i still think that it maybe helpful.
And someone mentioned kevis that contains hydro acid is that a good natural,and what about yuda pilitory i think lazerfish was thinking of that one a while ago,and also back to lasers for regrowth the lazerfish is a high powered hand held? :-"

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:24 pm

Any updates on this? mitcky? Joanne? Bueller?

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:05 am

I like this stuff, there's a lot that works against it and some positives...

1. It makes youe scalp and hairline red after use and then again after a morning shower.
2. It has a medicinal smell
3. Its very expensive; maybe too expensive

I just started using the new dermaheal product (NO it does NOT come with instructions)

The product that interests me is the HR 3 Matrix. I'm not into the science of these like many of you, but some sort of scalp peel makes sense (TO ME)

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:33 pm

Thanks for the update

Will you still be using this with the DermaHeal product(assuming the 5 or whatever vial one..that you use a dermaroller with..?)? I'm sure if you email them they'll have directions. I think it has to do with it mainly being a clinic type product. I'm still interested in that one..and the other you mentioned- the HR3 Matrix.

lost.hair.lost.youth · Post by **lost.hair.lost.youth** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:52 pm

mitcky

but did you see any changes with it?
Less shedding? Any new growth?

How long did you used it?

Thanks

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:49 am

I used it for 4 months. I did notice some some fine hairs and my scalp felt tighter. There was less shedding for sure.

It has a not so nice smell and it does make your hairline red after application and then again in the morning after a shower.

Call me impatient...I am now using the new dermaheal product and derma rolling. I will give this a good chance to succeed.

Any ideas what else I can use with this product as it is only to be used twice a week and then to once a week????

M

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:59 am

Yeah, Crescina

Maybe the regular DermaHeal..? or Lamas' topical. Or FNS. Or something by Elsom..which I've gotten back on again.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:22 pm

They have a new "booster" product: http://www.labosuisse.com/Innovation_CR ... o_int.aspx

The patented BOOSTER

acts on the CONCENTRATED EXTRACTS of Active Plant Stem Cells.

It boosts the properties of the stem cell extracts like an AUXILIARY PROPELLANT capable of accelerating the reactions of the active components on the cells of the scalp, the hair bulbs and follicles to promote regrowth.

Laboratory tests and studies show that the booster multiplies the beneficial effects of the substances to which they are associated (i.e. the Concentrated Extracts) promoting hair regrowth.

doke · Post by **doke** » Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:16 am

mitcky wrote:
Jacob wrote:Just curious if anyone who ordered this product has received it yet. Wondering how the company is service-wise.

I received my order 4 days after placement. I have used 3 treatments so far. It does remind me of Kevis, in that it has that smell and makes my scalp very red (briefly)

Hi i notice someone on ebay in us selling kevis at a lower price,it used to be a company in the uk that sold kevis in the 90s and then this us company took over.
The new formula is kevis 8 :-"

Pete2 · Post by **Pete2** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:32 am

This is good :

http://www.labosuisse.com/CRESCINA_HAIR_LOSS_int.aspx

Crescina Hair Loss Vials

When the hair loss is excessive is helpful to use Crescina Hair Loss New Formula.
The active ingredients of Crescina Hair Loss New Formula create a very rich and effective complex consisting of: Hydroxyproline, Aspartic Acid, Enzymatic Activator and Taurine, associated to CLA Glutathione and Calcium. These give an intensive, rapid and complete anti-hair loss action. Other ingredients are the Azelaic Acid, Pyridoxine, Serenoa Repens and Zinc for a persistent and chronic hair loss. Formulated for men and women.
Formulations for moderate - intense - serious hair loss.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:31 am

I'd be more interested in this: http://www.labosuisse.com/Crescina_HFSC%20EN.aspx (says it's new) ..heck I'll take one of each of their products

Crescina HFSC by Labo contains an innovative molecule called Bioengine that was tested ex-vivo (biopsies of the scalp) for its capacity to act on the stem cells of human hair follicles.

Compared to the control sample, the stem cells of the follicles in biopsies treated with Bioengine produced greater amounts of “marker” proteins (i.e. specific of human follicle stem cells) relating to Keratin-15 (+108.7%), Alpha6-Integrin (+102%), and ß-Catenin (+87.9%), which shows a clear sign of increased activity in stem cells present in treated follicles compared to untreated follicles.

FightingBack26 · Post by **FightingBack26** » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:32 pm

Jacob wrote:<span>I'd be more interested in this: <a class="linkclass" href="http://www.l ... %20EN.aspx">http://www.labosuisse.com/Crescina_HFSC%20EN.aspx[/url]</a> (says it's new) ..heck I'll take one of each of their products </span>

Crescina HFSC by Labo contains an innovative molecule called Bioengine that was tested ex-vivo (biopsies of the scalp) for its capacity to act on the stem cells of human hair follicles.

Compared to the control sample, the stem cells of the follicles in biopsies treated with Bioengine produced greater amounts of “marker” proteins (i.e. specific of human follicle stem cells) relating to Keratin-15 (+108.7%), Alpha6-Integrin (+102%), and ß-Catenin (+87.9%), which shows a clear sign of increased activity in stem cells present in treated follicles compared to untreated follicles.

Hi Jacob, do you mean it? You think the new formula is good? All this technical info is Chinese to me. Can you explain why you think this is good?

Thanks!

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:48 pm

I mean the part about that being the one I'd want to try if I were to try one..yeah

But I'm actually trying to find out more info from them..see if they'll respond.

It's just one of those product lines I wouldn't mind trying for awhile..since I love to rotate things. Makes more sense than buying a $40 "book"

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