DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

cloud9 · Post by **cloud9** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:38 pm

This stuff really needs to kick some ass for that price .

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:03 pm

I received my package and will make my first application on Wednesday night.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:20 pm

SW2 wrote:hey guys, just so i'm clear... since i'll hopefully be starting my dermaheal Stem C'rum trial next weekend (as long as i get my vibrating roller and C'rum!)

it says on the website: http://dermahealproducts.com/index.php/ ... um-hl.html

Directions: Apply one vial over the hair and scalp and massage it thoroughly. Let it be on the scalp for at least 4 hours. Then wash it with Dermaheal Shampoo. Use this product once a week for the first month and then every other week for the second month. For maintenance, use it once a month.

is this what everyone will be doing? so if i ordered 2 packages.. total of 10 vials...

vials 1-4: 1st month
vials 5,6: 2nd month
vials 7-10: 3rd-6 month?

this contradicts the photo's where 1 vial was used/week... so 10 vials would last 2.5 months, not 6.

also regarding application. Just to confirm... do you roll/stamp/microneedle (one of) before or after applying the C'rum? It makes sense to me, to create the holes first then apply... yes?

i'll email dermaheal about the application periods...

cheers,
SW

I received mine, and it's going to be a bit tricky to do it the way I was hoping to do it. Which was to mix half the powder with half the liquid..so one COULD use it once a week for an extended period of time. There must be a reason why they gave the directions like they did though

BTW..I think I saw on the box that it could even be used daily.

I really haven't decided how I'm going to go about it yet. I've gotten my hair cut much shorter than usual to make for easier application and dermarolling. I was surprised to see(I don't look all the time) my crown area..where the "swirl pattern" is..filled in very nicely. But right in front of that it doesn't look too good..then towards the front it's better again, but not as thick as the crown. I've been concentrating on the crown and frontal area..but do try to spread some over all the other areas. So maybe I wasn't hitting that bad spot enough.

I've read both ways..on applying the topicals with the dermaroller. I think I've read most say to do the dermaroller after applying the topical first. Apply the topical- rub it in as much as possible..then apply another layer w/out rubbing it in and dermaroller right away. I guess if you dermaroll first the holes close up quite quick after doing so. I may have it wrong though..I got my dermaroller..so will see what they say in the instructions. It came with some facial products..so I'm sure they touch on this somewhere.

ChuckP · Post by **ChuckP** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:06 pm

You can leave it on longer than 4 hours right?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:13 pm

Oh yeah..I'm leaving mine on overnight. Maybe even apply it earlier in the evening so it really soaks in..before hitting the pillow.

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:40 am

ok....I used my first aspplication last night and I see NO new hair growth.

A couple of observations:

1. I suggest you have an eye dropper handy as the mouth of the vial is a bit larger than expected. I used the syringe from the crescina I had left.
2. I used my derma roller BEFORE
3. Becareful when mixing the stuff....it's too expensive to waste any!

Then cross your fingers!

Here is my question!!!!!

What should I use during the week???? Is regular dermaheal too similar??? any suggestions?????

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:02 am

Best of luck, gentlemen... I'm pulling for you.

cloud9 · Post by **cloud9** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:16 pm

I am interested in this but because of the high price I am waiting to see how you guys do . I see others get good results I may give this a shot . Good luck all .

intricate1 · Post by **intricate1** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:57 am

I will soon try this product. I am using a dermaroller .02 mi long that I am buying on amazon and I will do it before I apply the serum. My question is do u think the .02 is the right size for a dermaroller and can it be used many times

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:22 pm

This caught my attention:

Use this product with Dermaheal Hair Serum, Conditioning Shampoo and Nutrition Pack to achieve best results.

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:37 pm

Jacob,

how about freezing opened vials? Will it get destroyed?

Thx

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:52 pm

mitcky ..it may be good to use the regular Dermaheal..it's up to you though. This Stem C'rum says it can be used daily(I did read that right...didn't I?) so I'm sure the Dermaheal could be used after this as well. I may use the Lamas and Pristeen here and there.

intricate1 wrote:I will soon try this product. I am using a dermaroller .02 mi long that I am buying on amazon and I will do it before I apply the serum. My question is do u think the .02 is the right size for a dermaroller and can it be used many times

Are you sure it isn't 0.2 mm ?? That's what that one hair loss product comes with..it's in this thread somewhere. If it's a good quality one it can be used many times. Make sure to kill all the bugs off it before and after use though.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:56 pm

kamui2 wrote:Jacob,

how about freezing opened vials? Will it get destroyed?

Thx

I'll ask 'em..as I have no idea. My guess is no..but we'll see.

I have yet to start with mine yet btw...guess I'm waiting for all the bugs to get sorted out first

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:24 pm

Also, any ideas where they are getting these growth factors? From which part of the body and from who?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:01 pm

Technically one or two freeze thaw would be ok. However, manufacturer has not done that study so I can not tell. What they have done, is studying the stability in liquid form in the frig and they recommend 5 days.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:54 pm

kamui2 wrote:Also, any ideas where they are getting these growth factors? From which part of the body and from who?

From them- "It is a process called making recombinant proteins in which you make something identical to a protein in your body (in this case growth factors) but you do it in the lab."

I think we're all slipping here..we should have known that

clau · Post by **clau** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:39 am

Jacob wrote:mitcky ..it may be good to use the regular Dermaheal..it's up to you though. This Stem C'rum says it can be used daily(I did read that right...didn't I?) so I'm sure the Dermaheal could be used after this as well. I may use the Lamas and Pristeen here and there.

Hi Jacob,
Are you still using DermaP ?
Just Day 1-4 ? or Day 1-4 + Day 5-14 ?
By the way, DermaP, Lamas and Pristeen are great !
Thx
Clau

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:57 pm

Yep..still using the Derma-P..even the 5-14 day one here and there. I can't wait to see what the improved version will be like.

I was going to drop the Lamas and Pristeen while using this stem c'rum..but will now most likely use each at least a couple of times a week.

davetherave · Post by **davetherave** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:35 pm

Jacob,

How are you liking the Pristeen?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:41 pm

I wish it had less or even no alcohol..but I'm tolerating it. I would also prefer it be more like a lotion..I'm so used to the Elsom topicals I guess.

I'll try to get an update from the company on if they plan on doing away with the alcohol..and/or are going to add some other things to it.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:53 pm

Jacob... you're using the C'rum?

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:23 pm

Jacob wrote:
kamui2 wrote:Also, any ideas where they are getting these growth factors? From which part of the body and from who?

From them- "It is a process called making recombinant proteins in which you make something identical to a protein in your body (in this case growth factors) but you do it in the lab."

I think we're all slipping here..we should have known that

Sorry, I'm not that smart

But does this mean their growth factors are synthetic?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:55 pm

chore boy..yep..applied it once so far. Well actually I applied it twice, with the dermarolling inbetween applications. I'm still reading most saying to apply a topical first..even the instructions with the dermaroller say that(it came with some other skin-care samples)..but I guess it can depend upon what is being applied.

Even applying a good amount twice..there's still enough for another day.

kamui2..actually I might have gotten a response on the wrong product or something. Because they're not synthetic..at least not the adipose-derived ones. Some of the peptides they use are "mimicking peptides"..so I'm guessing they're synthetic. I'll see if I can get a clarification on that.

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Fri Apr 09, 2010 6:08 pm

Jacob,

I got a reply from them and they said their proteins/growth factors are made synthetically. Hmmmmmm....

Anyway, gona be taking pictures and comparing it to the ones i took last year of my crown..Hope this stuff works.

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:52 pm

I just did my first treatment.

Only complaint so far is that it goes on like water.. LOL

I would prefer if the solution was a bit thicker.

Oh, and no shedding at all while massaging this stuff on, unlike A&G complex where I shed a crap load while massaging it in.

SO far so good.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:35 pm

Yeah..have a washcloth handy

I'm going to ask Dr Lee if it's possible to get extra tops/applicators with the dab-o-matics. I guess one could rinse it out with alcohol after each use though...

nix · Post by **nix** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:50 am

recombinant proteins just means that they put the gene for the proteine ( in this case a growth factor) into a vector (a plasmid) that gets into a bacterium (most likely e. coli) which produces that protein for you. it can then be isolated and used for our heads. it can be somehow modified which means the important areas of the protein are there and the unimportant are cut out before. since e. coli is a prokaryot and we are eukaryot they cannot use the exact same gen because it could not be translated intp a protein by the bacterium, they use the cDNA instead which makes no difference at all. I say, don't worry

good luck to all of you
it would be nice to get some regrowth and then keep by using less expensive products

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:56 am

Jacob,

In your opinion, do you think it's OK to freeze it once?

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:09 am

How's this stuff working out for you guys?

gutted · Post by **gutted** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:28 pm

is any one using this on complete bald spots? would be easier to notice new hair if it grows in from this product?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:55 pm

kamui2...I would think it'd be ok as long as it's thawed out in the 'fridge.

Way too early to say if it's doing anything. And I am using it on some "bald" spots..so we'll see.

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:29 pm

Jacob, why is it better to let it thaw in the fridge? Can't I just let it cool down at room temperature?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:02 am

I would think if you timed it right you probably could do it that way. I personally wouldn't take it out of the freezer at night so it's ready in the morning though. It's such a small amount it'd probably thaw out w/in a couple-few hours.

But the company may say differently...

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:40 pm

When I took it out of the freezer, it melted back to liquid in about 15 minutes. I used it right after that.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:08 pm

Cool..that should be just fine then. I may even do that if it only takes that long to melt.

hopeful19 · Post by **hopeful19** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:30 pm

Jacob --
Are you using this along with the days 1-4 serum?

gutted · Post by **gutted** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:00 pm

has anyone noticed one of the pictures on page 43 of the pdf file below is the same picture used on thomas whitfields website as part of the logo? http://www.trx2.com/
http://www.in-cosmeticsasia.com/Exhibit ... ue-C_1.pdf

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:25 pm

Can you be more specific? I don't see it.

Thanks

gutted · Post by **gutted** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:30 pm

the picture on page 43 (titled contact us) of the pdf file, top left picture is the same man from the picture on the trx2 website

mitcky · Post by **mitcky** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:21 pm

Got it...you are 100% corrrect. Very interesting. There must be a lot of stock photos out there, but I don't believe in coincidences.

gutted · Post by **gutted** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:57 pm

yeah, probably could be a stock photo or something

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:39 pm

hopeful19 wrote:Jacob --
Are you using this along with the days 1-4 serum?

Yep..the 5-14 too..at times.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:08 am

What's the deal? You guys love it?

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:06 pm

Three weeks, 1x/week, nothing to report. Still losing same amount of hair

gutted · Post by **gutted** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:52 pm

I reckon it would yield better results if applied daily.

hopeful19 · Post by **hopeful19** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:11 am

Jacob wrote:
hopeful19 wrote:Jacob --
Are you using this along with the days 1-4 serum?
Yep..the 5-14 too..at times.

Are you worried about the directions with the use of the days 1-4 serum about not using another growth factors for at least till the end of the cycle.

Fizzball · Post by **Fizzball** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:07 am

Kamui2 are you using any other Dermaheal products along with the C'rum.

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:57 pm

Nope, just C'rum.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:31 pm

hopeful19..I'm also just using it once a week, so I'm not worried. I'm also using the full vial..decided to go by how it was made to be used, I guess.

kamui2 · Post by **kamui2** » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:19 pm

I'm using only half vial each time. Not as rich as Jacob.

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