DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:22 pm

But it doesn't really matter $-wise. I'd either have to use half twice a week(unless..I guess..I went the freezer route) or just one whole vial once a week.

I'll see how things go..but if I start seeing results I may then just use half at a time..freeze the other half.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Mon May 03, 2010 2:09 pm

So what's up guys? Any less shedding? healthier scalp?, darkening of tge hair? We need some updates this is more expensive than a&g and we were getting alot more reviews and excitment from that at least for the begining.

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Post by Jacob » Mon May 03, 2010 2:51 pm

I don't know how many are using this. Seems like just a few of us(who are actually posting)..A&G had quite a few "trialists" as well.

My udpate..I have a LOT of "downy" hairs that just lay on my scalp. I can notice it more under certain lighting. I'm very tempted to get some FNS..as it always seemed to help things along after getting regrowth..

I'm going to start using just half a vial a week..freeze the other half. I'm also considering going just a tad deeper with the dermaroller. If I can find a decent price on the replacement heads.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by kamui2 » Mon May 03, 2010 3:42 pm

Nothing to report, will be posting pics in June, the two month mark.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by xyion1 » Mon May 03, 2010 7:05 pm

Jacob wrote:I don't know how many are using this. Seems like just a few of us(who are actually posting)..A&G had quite a few "trialists" as well.

My udpate..I have a LOT of "downy" hairs that just lay on my scalp. I can notice it more under certain lighting. I'm very tempted to get some FNS..as it always seemed to help things along after getting regrowth..

I'm going to start using just half a vial a week..freeze the other half. I'm also considering going just a tad deeper with the dermaroller. If I can find a decent price on the replacement heads.
Jacob, what is FNS? I have a bunch of blonde hairs which I'd love to convert to black ones. Even if 10% converted, I'd be happy.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Mon May 03, 2010 8:19 pm

I'm not sure FNS will do that..but it's this product here: http://www.osmotics.com/catalog/Hair/hair-products.html

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by xyion1 » Mon May 03, 2010 9:51 pm

Jacob - thanks for posting that FNS link, it looks interesting.

I read their clinical study and it sounds like it might do _something_I'm just not sure what. I'll think about adding it to the (ridiculously long) queue.

Is it copper peptide based? That would make it similar to Folligen...

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Post by Jacob » Mon May 03, 2010 11:08 pm

Don't get too impressed with the study..that was with the original formula from Israel. Osmotics tried to "copy" it using all natural ingreds etc. IMO it isn't something one would use to try to get new regrowth..but to help any new growth along. And for keeping existing hair..thicken it up.

It contains a lot of amino acids..cinnamon..etc. It's not cu peptide based.

I wish it absorbed like the Derma-P 1-4 day product. Hmmm..wonder if they could at least put the amino acides in the 5-14 day.....

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by San-de » Tue May 04, 2010 4:28 am

is anyone seeing any results yet? I am anxious to give it a shot, but its a bit expensive for me at the moment--I don't want another A&G.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Sun May 16, 2010 7:00 pm

Any updates? I'm loosing grround with the hair concentrating serum, I need to use another product?
Lots of shedding

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Sun May 16, 2010 8:10 pm

I just wanted to share that after I use the dermaroller I get bumps where my lymphnodes are in the back of my head and neck. This only happens when I use the dermaroller with the serum.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Mon May 17, 2010 1:52 pm

Which dermaroller are you using again?

I ended up sticking with the once a week application- using a whole vial each time. I really don't think I'll know for sure how it does until the end of the summer. So will keep at it...

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Tue May 18, 2010 7:28 pm

I don't knw I threw the box away but it wasn't cheap, I got it on amazon for 60$. anyways Im gonna dermaroll very seldomly I am gonna use the crum I just don't know when I can afford it just got back from Vegas and I'm broke lol
dermarolling is catching on and I think over app is safe but I don't know with the stuff we put on our heads. but one thing that I feel good about is the breakthroughs that will come from skincare that might make our situation alot better

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by mitcky » Wed May 19, 2010 6:59 am

Only once a week with the derma roller? I'm using it 4 times a week and thought I should use it every night. Any one else with an opinion here??

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Wed May 19, 2010 7:58 am

4 times a week should be fine..unless you're using one of those that make your head pop and bleed :shock:

I'm looking more into those galvanic-type devices. May send Dermaheal an email to get their opinion on
'em. Not crazy about having to spend more time using one though...

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by mitcky » Fri May 21, 2010 9:46 am

I noticed the promo code no longer works. I might go back to crescina if this is the case.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Fri May 21, 2010 9:48 am

HL-2010 still works. May have to type it in?

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Post by mitcky » Fri May 21, 2010 10:02 am

Thanks--you are right...

Now the real delemna! C'rum or back to crescina!!

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Fri May 21, 2010 10:10 am

I still need to use my Bioclin Advance. I may take a break from Lamas for awhile...although I'd like to have something with the apple stem cells to use as well. I was thinking of a custom one from Elsom..but would have to use that along with the Bioclin..and the Pristeen......

I'm now planning on use the Stem C'rum once every other week..

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by ChuckP » Fri May 21, 2010 1:47 pm

Have you guys noticed anything positive yet with this or still way to early to tell

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Fri May 21, 2010 2:43 pm

I've noticed quite a few wispy hairs that can be seen in certain lighting..but as I've said- by the end of the summer I should really know. I am and will be using other things though...

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Mon May 31, 2010 7:18 pm

will be looking forward to your answers Jacob , right now I really wanna try the 1-4 day serum cause at least I can afford it

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:14 pm

Now I'm thinking of using the rest of the DermaHeal line for awhile. Either not use the other things I use at the same time or use 'em even more sparingly. They recommend it...of course...and I'm just thinking if I'm spending the money for this stuff I might as well do it according to their suggestions.

What to do....

Anyone else using the complete line or at least the DermaHeal with it?

BTW..the .25 dermaroller is what they suggest. They don't think any deeper will make much of a difference.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:29 pm

I haven't use the crum I want to but it's expensive, the shampoo conditionor and the concentrating serum have been great for me BUT for some reason iv been shedding like crazy lately and I'm loosing ground:-(. I cut out all my supplements and that might be it are u still taking the tocotrienols Jacob?

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Post by Jacob » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:16 am

I'm still taking them a few times a week... I'm running low on the product that contains them. I'm going with phytoplankton for awhile..so obviously I'm not buying much of anything else :lol:

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Post by intricate1 » Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:46 am

so my lymphnodes keep swelling up every time I use a dermaroller with the concentrating serum!! it seems to be a mild infection cause last night I felt like a fever and that just sucks and it's scary!!! does anybody else have any of these symptoms? how do you guys prevent infections?

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Post by Jacob » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:40 am

That's weird. I use the vibrating .25 and never noticed anything..'cept maybe a little funny feeling in my sinus area. I don't even remember what length the one I used to use was..from Lipoxidil.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by MG63 » Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:57 am

I've been using Dermaheal the serum for a year and added the conditioner /shampoo 6 months ago. This month I added the Stem Crum. I've been very pleased with all products. Although the shampoo could be a bit better (less sulfates). The serum should not be applied with micro-needling. It is clearly stated on the side of the packaging that do not apply on wounds or cuts.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by theronin » Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:21 am

MG63 wrote:I've been using Dermaheal the serum for a year and added the conditioner /shampoo 6 months ago. This month I added the Stem Crum. I've been very pleased with all products. Although the shampoo could be a bit better (less sulfates). The serum should not be applied with micro-needling. It is clearly stated on the side of the packaging that do not apply on wounds or cuts.

One year with the serum???...Im going to start this week with it, which results you had with it?? Any regrowth (if its possible)?? stop hair loss?? Are you using propecia or minox???

Otherwise, Hi for all, is my first post in this forum \:D/

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by intricate1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:18 pm

thanks mg for the feedback you are about what it says. how about the crum does it say the same thing? so ur nit using a dermaroller with it?

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by doke » Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:42 am

jacob i am a bit angry at your promotion of expensive con products which have no proof they work,although i have wasted ££££ on con products such as a&g which i was suckered into no blame on you for that j as i was taken in but do we not learn our lesson,as all these experimental products are not proven to regrow one hair or reverse mp at least there is a valid minoxidil and propecia proof of growth and dutasteride,and also some of these products maybe toxic we do not know as said i have been desp to regrow my hair from age 20 to my age now 52 and as said i am not keen on minox as it gets me dizzy,but we are all clutching at straws with these expensive products and wasting our money,if a product that really works comes along it will problably be dirt cheap and maybe its here already staring us in the face,but please i am fed up with this constant rip off products mentioned here,as with minox tried on 2,000 men it did show it worked on mp and the same with finasteride trialed for safe'ty before letting loose on the public,i am to blame as well on some sites with natural products as said we all get drawn in remember androvex which i ordered and never received which was suppose to be ru58841i did get my money back though from my bank,anyway i have had my rant but please lets look for a cheap product that does have backup with proof it works?

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by davetherave » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:18 am

doke,

In defense of Jacob, he is just bringing new products to our attention which I applaud him for. It is up to us to decide whether to trial them. Hopefully, one of these will actually perform!

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by doke » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:20 am

hi dave i hope jacob does not take affence but i am also telling myself off for being duped so many times,i am a sucker when i see some new product,i was going to try actistem now they have 50 gram packs? but do we go back to minox 5%. :lol:

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by MG63 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:02 am

which is correct - apply Stem C'rum then Dermaroll or the reverse? I've been rolling first then applying the C'rum.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by clau » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:31 pm

Jacob wrote:I still need to use my Bioclin Advance. I may take a break from Lamas for awhile...although I'd like to have something with the apple stem cells to use as well. I was thinking of a custom one from Elsom..but would have to use that along with the Bioclin..and the Pristeen......

I'm now planning on use the Stem C'rum once every other week..


Jacob,
How did you get your pristeen?
I've sent 2-3 emails to reorder and no answer yet
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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:01 pm

Sheesh..how many times do I say when I bring up new products, especially these expensive ones..that you shouldn't be expecting tons of hair growth etc etc etc just because the product is expensive and/or is new and/or a company makes certain claims #-o

I go out of my way not to "recommend" things..as I do have a conscience..I am not going to get ppl's hopes up..etc. How/why certain other folks do so and even get away with it....(but alls cool doke)

MG63..I apply it both before and after 'rolling. That way I know I'm doing it right :lol:

clau..they have a new procedure..I'll try to dig it up later. You basically have to wire the money..unless they've changed things again.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by doke » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:48 am

yeh thanks jacob i was at one of my bad desporate hair days not knowing which product to buy use although at 52 i still have some hair what do you think of actistem cream? also are any of you guys in uk? :-({|=

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:38 am

ActiStem looks interesting..but I don't like that they won't divulge the complete ingreds list.

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Post by intricate1 » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:06 pm

so any update?! like compliments on your hair, overall thickness, healthy scalp, less visible bald spot, do u guys recommend this product ??

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Swimmy » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:13 pm

For the price tag. Sure is quiet in here. Maybe everyone regrew a full head of hair and is partying :-({|=

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Post by cloud9 » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:55 am

At over $400 a pop you would have thought someone would have posted with an update by now .

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:41 pm

Hey guys..I'm still waiting to see if anything becomes of the wispy critters I feel *may* have been created or at least helped with the use of this stuff. I may use it again in the spring..in-between I'll be using Dermaheal etc.

I'll give an update in a couple of months.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by kamui2 » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:32 pm

No results for me.. $400 gone. ;p

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:07 pm

New product from them....

http://integratedskincare.net/files/63390656.pdf
M.Booster Hair contains PATENTED RENOKIN peptide complex. M.Booster Hair brings a visible and dramatic result with Dermaheal HL/Stem C’rum HL to male and female alopecia patients.

Biomimetic Peptides

Oligopeptide-54 (CG-Nokkin)

Strong BMP Blocker, promotes hair growth and inhibits de-pigmentation of hair. Strengthens hair while stimulating hair follicles to produce healthier hair. Helps blood circulation in the scalp and revitalizes hair follicles.

Decapeptide-10 (CG-Keramin2)

DKK-1 Down Regulator, promotes new hair cell proliferation and migration which induce strong hair follicle and hair shaft.

Decapeptide-18 (CG-WINT)

Stimulator of hair placode formation, generates de novo hair through activated β-catenin signal which is a key mechanism of differentiating hair follicle epithelial stem cells into hair keratinocyte cells.

Oligopeptide-42 (CG-Fibramin)

Promotes hair grow and inhibits de-pigmentation of hair. Helps blood circulation in scalp and revitalizing hair follicles.
BTW..I'm probably like most here...didn't really stick with the other long enough. There has to be some out there who have though :-k

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by doke30 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 4:35 am

i have never asked have you ever tried minoxidil? and propecia. and has anyone really used the full 6ml phials of neogenic for the full 3 months or more as i have seen poters on another site saying that 6mls is too much and applying less a day and then say it does not do a lot exceipt very fine wispy hair.
It would be good to get someone who used neo as per instructions for over 3 months any thoughts jacob on this,because even though i got suckered into what jacob knows about at the other forum i would welcom a natural product that was equal to minox and propecia and we know they are not cures.

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Post by Jacob » Mon Aug 05, 2013 5:09 pm

Nope..never used minox or fin.

If you're asking if I know of anyone who used up each vial as per instructions for whatever length of time you're supposed to do it...I can't think of anyone. The ones I've seen spread it out. But they did use it for however long you're supposed to. Now if they kept up with it after that..I dunno.

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Re: DermaHeal Stem C’rum Anti-Hair Loss

Post by Jacob » Mon Jan 20, 2014 2:23 pm

Sale on DermaHeal products here..not all the hair ones are listed though: http://www.hautelook.com/event/46784

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