herbal-h

[tempestnatures]

Googling news for hair loss/regrowth brought me a new product today.
http://Herbal-h.com
Please let me know if you know anything about it.

The news item is:
http://www.onlineprnews.com/news/25081- ... r-men.html

Some plus points:
1) Not a life long treatment. 3 to 6 months course and you are done.
2) Price per month is kind of manageable.
3) Its a new product. So may be their claim is true.

Some negative points:
1) 95% results claim is based only by testing on 42 men. That sucks!
2) Its a new product. So, its a disadvantage too. (Yes, it was discovered in 2006, but became available to public in Dec 2009 only).

Please guys, do give generous comments if you know anything about this one.
Like every new product, this one raises hopes once again to a new level.

[Alex Summers]

I went to the website and looked at the ingredients list. It contains Minoxidil 2%, so I reckon it will probably grow some hair.

[Jacob]

"Herbal Minoxidil "...."100% Natural Non-toxic" ...."Herbal-H does NOT contain any drugs like Finastride and is formulated of pure herbal ingredients, therefore is 100% safe to use for Men of all ages." And yet elsewhere it says: "Minoxidil is the first drug that was approved by the FDA in order to treat androgenetic alopecia. Its high tech formulation with Herbal-H ingredients makes this 2% Minoxidil completely safe to use and has absolutely no side effects." (see the word "drug" there)

Some of the ingreds look interesting..and the tech sounds good..but how do they get away with that?

[hulihoop]

haha. Jacob, I was just on the site and came back here to post the same thing. How can something be all natural with "no chemicals" and contain minoxidil at the same time? It also contains butylene glycol which last time I checked was a product of a lab not mother nature. Yes there are some interesting ingredients but the very fact that they promise all natural no chemicals and then contain minox and chemicals makes them seem rather dodgy in my opinion. It reminds me of the stemcelex site, right down to the color scheme and layout of the web site. As a Canadian I ask what is it with these Canadian company's playing fast and loose with the facts? lol....I am going to check their pictures to see if they are using ones we've seen before.

[chore boy]

Damn, I'm good... I had a feeling it was regurgitated Yuda Pilatory.

[chore boy]

http://www.herbal-h.com/

Same pics

[Swimmy]

LOL god these people are stupid. The nerve to use pictures from other websites. Who themselves probably stole.



Anyone gonna call these guys out on this?

[hulihoop]

As a Canadian I feel obligated to bust their lying asses but I can't seem to find the yuda pilatory site. Hopefully chore or someone else will do it. Just send them an email with the link to the photos and the question "How do you explain this?" That's what I did with Stemcelex. Funny that they were unable to come up with an answer.

[tempestnatures]

Is it not possible to have some agency which can "REALLY" check claims like these?
I mean till how long should we be fooled by stuff like this?

Any company claiming to have a nice product should first be passed by such an agency.
Only then it can make a public advertisement of its product.

[Fizzball]

There should be a layer of protection for potential customers which acts as a governing body to any sort of hair loss product, lets face it hair loss is the multi million dollar cash cow and its so easy to milk.

I still stand by my quote which is "guilty until proven innocent".

I'm amazed at how much these scoundrels seem to get away with, maybe its time governments start handing out record fines and bans to fraudulent companies and its directors.

[p__]

"Some of the ingreds look interesting..and the tech sounds good..

NOOOOO! The tech sounds good??? Come on! We have to be smarter than this! Apart from the obvious contradiction that you pointed out regarding the use of "drugs" the entire text REEKS of %&$!!

The words "natural", "herb", "pure" etc are thrown around like they carry some sort of weight, intended to invoke a false sense of some mystical "value". In reality those words mean absolutely nothing, they prove nothing and are telltale signs of a scam. Should we really believe in fairytales and magic 2010? Whether a drug works has nothing to do with if it's natural or not. AIDS is natural, cancer is natural. Pace-makers are unnatural. Minoxidil is unnatural. Finasteride is unnatural. Fruit is natural. Snake venom is natural. It is obvious that there are both good, bad and neutral things that are "natural". In other words, the words "natural", "herb" etc have NO intrinsic value (neither good nor bad) and its use in a commercial text would indicate that someone is trying to bolster up their product with a value that doesn't exist.

The only ting in that concoction that is going to be (slightly) effective is minoxidil, which is a highly engineered drug having nothing to do with herbs.

If anything, I find it highly unlikely that we'd find out that something readily available to use would provide a sudden cure. After all, people have been trying just about everything they find around them to cure their hair loss for ages. You can bet that everything you can imagine with the things that are available to us in nature has been tried by someone at some point during human history. At this very moment, someone is smearing semen on his chrome dome, just to see if it cures his hair loss. Someone else is smearing faeces. Someone is eating grass. Someone is eating otters. Someone is eating bark. Someone is bathing in peyote. Wouldn't it be reasonable to expect that anything that made a drastic difference would have been known by now? It's just not that simple to crack this nut.

I'm sorry to go off on a rant and I know Jacob is really into natural remedies but there as just been so many scams lateley I'm getting p---ed off that we (collectively) are so desperate and gullible. Herbs? Homeopathy? Healing crystals? What's the next thing we should pay for? Quiji boards? Prayer? Bloodletting? Seanses? Tarot? Ghost creams?

WE NEED TO WISE UP!

/rant

[Jacob]

p____..you must have missed the rest of my post

[p__]

I did?

Anyway, don't take my post too seriously, it was not really meant to be directed at you. I'm just so tired of all the fraudsters.

[p__]

Is it not possible to have some agency which can "REALLY" check claims like these?
I mean till how long should we be fooled by stuff like this?

Any company claiming to have a nice product should first be passed by such an agency.
Only then it can make a public advertisement of its product.

Hey, I know, we could call it "the FDA"

[MacJayKal]

I have spoken to Calvin, a hair care specialist from Herbal-H company and he explained to me that the company has worked with "Yuda Pilatory" in the past and that the before and after picture was an early tryout of the solution they developed. According to the company, it seems like Herbal-H solution is the same as YUDA however they released a newer formula that includes the "penetrating peel technology". He also explained that the HERBAL ingredients used are all natural (go figure) and that the 2% minoxidil used in herbal-h is safe to use and will cause no side effects as it is a medication that can be sold over the counter in pharmacies. (obviously!)

[Joey Ramone]

Well, your one post on this forum and direct line with the company has me convinced that all is well, we were silly doubt and the world of hair loss is a happy place filled with rainbows and unicorns. Thank you for enlightening us with your spam.

[0416Dr]

lol @ Joey

[p__]

I'm sorry to be captain Obvious, but there is NOTHING natural about minoxidil. It is a highly engineered drug, that - unlike the other herbal crap in there - has been proven to be an effective hair growth agent. It won't stop the progression of MPB but it will make the hair you have grow faster and thicker in most cases. So why line the pockets of a company that is obviously lying about being "all natural" when minoxidil can be bought cheaper over the counter without the useless herbal stuff in it? Why dilute it and pay more?

[Swimmy]

Thanks Mac. I'm glad you took the effort to sign up and make your one and only post (and your last) to inform us of your product that you're selling..

[nicnitro]

Here is what I can say with 100% certainty:

On their website: http://www.herbal-h.com/

The bottles contain my picture, without my permission and I have never used their product. My work was done at Hasson and Wong and my handle on all hair loss blogs is NicNitro. I had over 10,000 graphs by Victor Hassson in 2 sessions.

I have contacted my lawyer and will proceed accordingly to stop this false presentation.

[justthin]

Here is what I can say with 100% certainty:

On their website: http://www.herbal-h.com/

The bottles contain my picture, without my permission and I have never used their product. My work was done at Hasson and Wong and my handle on all hair loss blogs is NicNitro. I had over 10,000 graphs by Victor Hassson in 2 sessions.

I have contacted my lawyer and will proceed accordingly to stop this false presentation.

lol..owned

[Jacob]

nicnitro...are you sure Hasson and Wong didn't sell the picture? I'm guess though that your picture must be on Hasson and Wong's site or ? for this company to be able to get it.

And come on now..we know you want to tell us about your car...

[nicnitro]

Yes I am 100% sure H & W didn't sell my photo ! H & W alerted me about this company fraudulently using my image and claiming the "before" and "after" results of my hair.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2 ... 1780818193

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2 ... 1780818193

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