PRP injections: Apparently the real deal.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:27 pm

I'm trying to not get overly excited but this Doc is located an hour away from me. I'm gonna get the skinny come Monday but it's looking like it might already be available.

http://tressless.com/2008/02/12/injecti ... grow-hair/

http://doctorgreco.blogspot.com/

Make sure you watch this video:

http://www.mysuncoast.com/global/video/ ... h&activePa

http://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/vi ... &sk=t&sd=a

Big ups to Chrome and BTB.

hulihoop · Post by **hulihoop** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:09 pm

NOW THIS IS EXCITING!
I would drive down to Florida, visit some friends, and get that treatment if they are performing it now. But since you live a lot closer to me why don't you go first

I don't think I can get the time off to go till June anyway.
Chore Boy, BTB and Chrome, you guys rock!

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:12 pm

Beyond exciting... turns out minituarization is my main issue.

hulihoop · Post by **hulihoop** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:22 pm

Same here. I have thinning hair that would look more patchy than yours if I buzzed it down. Doc said hairs are miniaturized but figures 99% of follicles are still viable just weak. Miniaturized hair stays in rest phase a longer time and anagen phase a shorter time, hence less and less hair appears on the head. All of this is new to me in the last year at most. So....I'm gonna do the A&G thing to hopefully get things moving in the right direction but I would spend the $800 in a second if I knew that Dr. Greco's treatment would work for me as well as it did for the guy in the video.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:28 pm

I'd have no issue giving him the loot if it were legit... like you said.

You can't tell from my webcam pics but if I could reverse minituarization, I could probably get a nice thick NW 1.5 going.... dude, I'd probably start crying if I could get a viable head of hair again... hahahah

hulihoop · Post by **hulihoop** » Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:41 pm

I still look like a NW 1 but that is with hair an inch long. If I buzz it down there are patches of devastation on the crown/top and the hairline is just starting to go at the temples. All I want to do is breathe some life into those follicles and get things to thicken up. I'd cry too if I could just run my hands over a reasonably thick #3 length head of hair again...

Who knows though? In the last 4 weeks cuz of guys like Jacob and you I've found out about stuff that looks promising, especially considering that it is early in the game for me. If I could just get it back I think I could maintain it nicely for a long time to come by sitting under a laser lid for 20 minutes 3 times a week.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:28 am

chore..do you know if there are other before/after pictures? I noticed the ones on the blog and IMO they're worse than A&G's

The first having completely different color hair..the second looking like spray paint was used, and the color changing in those too. Did I mention I hate pictures?

But I'd be curious to know if others are out there.

Figure 1(above left) is an electron microscope image of the matrix while Figure 2(above right) is a view deep inside the matrix illustrating how the protein entraps the growth factors. Since it takes the body longer to break down protein, the growth factors and healing capable cells remain over the treatment area longer allowing more new cells to attach promoting healing.

A natural liposomal process?

Hey...

They inject PRP directly into the scalp, then roll the skin with what appears to be a Dermaroller.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:33 am

Here's the clinic link http://grecohairrestoration.com/

It looks like that first before/after was of someone with Alopecia Areata ..the second- a hair transplant and then treatment: http://grecohairrestoration.com/layman.htm

We are currently researching this non-surgical cellular therapy as a treatment for Alopecia Areata. Results of the research grant study sponsored by the International Society of Hair Restoration and the International Hair Research Foundation will be reported in Amsterdam, The Netherlands, in July 2009

Maybe the lighten has something to do with the colors......

mrw · Post by **mrw** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:48 am

wow this looks fantastic- and no side effects. 800-1000 bucks seems pretty reasonable. I have wasted that much in the last year or two on crap with no scientific proof at all. lol

Chore boy- Im sure you will, but please keep up posted on what all you find out about this. If i was in florida I would go tomorrow.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:14 am

Sounds like they're already working on a take-home product.."in the future" is what he said. That could be some time from now, I suppose. I also invited him here..so we'll see if he has the time or the will to deal with us

I do like companies that respond to inquiries

BTW..we need Chrome over here too. I noticed in that thread there wasn't much interest..seems this place may be more open to these types of things.

mrw · Post by **mrw** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:04 am

good idea. I like this board alot. Actually I have lurked on all of the boards for the past several years. I am familiar with all the usual players, but have never jumped in the conversation for I did not have much to add besides frustration...and well there was plenty of that without my sticking my .02 in. So far this board has stayed pretty positive with strong, healthy discussions, and I like that.

This PRP stuff looks great and makes sense. I will say that AQ was right about his comment on studies and medical breakthroughs that get hidden away. It IS true. I am in the pharmaceutical industry. You would be shocked and amazed at how much faking/lying there really is. It is really disgusting. Especially when an individual scientist makes a huge discovery, it gets covered up and passed over, grants get restricted and weird crap happens. For instance there have been major breakthroughs in cancer and HIV well beyond what is currently available, but because it works so well and would cannibalize current products it gets put on hold or shelved. Makes me sick. I digress. sorry for my rant

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:07 am

Interesting find chore boy...

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:13 am

the different color hair in the one set of photos is deinitely suspect.

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:13 am

I am in the pharmaceutical industry. You would be shocked and amazed at how much faking/lying there really is. It is really disgusting. Especially when an individual scientist makes a huge discovery, it gets covered up and passed over, grants get restricted and weird crap happens. For instance there have been major breakthroughs in cancer and HIV well beyond what is currently available, but because it works so well and would cannibalize current products it gets put on hold or shelved. Makes me sick. I digress. sorry for my rant

mrw, if what you're saying is true (and I don't doubt that that sort of thing happens) it's quite sad and almost criminal. There should be laws against that sort of thing. At least there should be some kind of provision that says that if there is research that proves something works against cancer or HIV, and it wasn't shelved due to lack of safety, then the government should continue to look into it... I dunno. Anyway, I don't want to digress from the main topic of this thread. If people want to discuss this sort of thing we can split this discussion into a new thread. Let me know.

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:15 am

chore boy wrote:the different color hair in the one set of photos is deinitely suspect.

I noticed that too and thought the same thing...

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:22 am

Can't seem to win out here.

His patient advisor lives in the same city as me... I'm tempted to give her a jingle today.

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:23 am

Chore boy, if you do talk to them ask them if they would be willing to come here and answer questions like Dr. AQ is doing.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:24 am

If dude's head is slightly moved in the after photo, then the swirl in the crown appears to be consistent... but the hair color thing....

The video seemed legit.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:25 am

Will do, sir.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:32 am

Yeah but it appears to be a slate color... I don't know.

This tech is one of the more interesting ones out there and I don't want to mentally masturbate myself into disbelief before I even investigate it.

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:37 am

chore boy wrote:Will do, sir.

Great!

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:38 am

Wasn't expecting to get to far on a Sunday but I just tried calling his patient advisor and the 1-888 number and got answering machines.

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:02 am

Jacob wrote:Sounds like they're already working on a take-home product.."in the future" is what he said. That could be some time from now, I suppose. I also invited him here..so we'll see if he has the time or the will to deal with us

I do like companies that respond to inquiries

Sorry I missed this post Jacob. Didn't realize you had already invited them over here... You're ahead of my thinking. I suppose it doesn't hurt though if chore boy does the same.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:08 am

I agree with Jacob about getting Chrome over here... maybe a few other people. I've always liked Bornthisway from HLT.

I will admit... this site is off to a great start. I like how people actually discuss interesting stuff instead of whether or not David Beckham's armpits are receding.

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 1:39 pm

These are the published miniaturization study results, as provided by Dr. Greco(click on them unless you have eagle eyes) . The bottom one is the first one.

Sam, feel free to put them on a separate page or ? He also said "We are in the middle of the Alopecia Areata research study and have applied for another one for Alopecia Universalis that may have other implication that just hair. These are devastating autoimmune conditions that psychologically destroy people and are not just cosmetic."

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 2:58 pm

I will place these up on the research section of the site when I get a chance: http://www.hairlossfight.com/research

I recommend you upload these to your my.hairlossfight.com files page as well. When you upload them, tag them (comma separate the tags). I would add the following tags: alopecia, alopecia universalis, alopecia areata, alopecia research, autoimmune conditions, autoimmunity, Dr. Greco

When you add a file and tag it with good keywords like that it becomes super easy to find them by using the search feature of my.hairlossfight.com.

Sam

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:33 pm

I'll do that..but I wish there were someone here to hold my hand....

Edit..ok..did it. I'm not sure if that's how you would have done it or

Post by **HairLossFight.com** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:28 pm

Perfect Jacob. Looks good. I think we will have an awesome document repository over time. Just remember, whenever you upload a file, tag it well, with everything you can think of that would make sense if you want to do a search for the document in the future.

perga · Post by **perga** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 6:37 pm

WOW that alopecia areata picture is insane! I don't know much about non-androgen related alopecia, but those results blew me away in that PDF.

It's really amazing all this stuff coming out at the same time! Man, I hope some of this stuff works!

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:21 pm

Dude's hair in the "after" photo in the PDF appears to be a different color than the ones on the website... isn't quite as Dermamatch.

I'm super stoked about this actually being a viable treatment. That news segment on it seemed legit.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:51 am

Wayyyyy super stoked now.

Just got off the phone with his patient advisor and I got me a lil' consultation with him on Thursday.

PRP + Chore Boy + Jesus = Badass hair and subsequent bettys.

TheOne · Post by **TheOne** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:01 am

I've been lurking here for a while, watching all this A&G stuff.

I just thought I would let you guys know that there was a discussion over on hairsite about this PRP stuff last year and some of the posters were in contact with Dr Greco.

Here are some links you may find usefull.

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board ... 40667.html
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board ... 35696.html
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/board ... 34332.html

mrw · Post by **mrw** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:43 am

chore boy wrote:Wayyyyy super stoked now.

Just got off the phone with his patient advisor and I got me a lil' consultation with him on Thursday.

PRP + Chore Boy + Jesus = Badass hair and subsequent bettys.

AWESOME! cant wait to hear about it. Im ready to fly out to florida for this. No joke- if you deem this a worthy procedure based on your consult Im going.

hulihoop · Post by **hulihoop** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:42 am

Ditto for me!

checkingin · Post by **checkingin** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:27 am

Jacob, are you using the A&G Skins solutions stuff?

Jacob · Post by **Jacob** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 8:31 am

Nope..will start next week...possibly this weekend.

astro_boy · Post by **astro_boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:52 am

Hoooooly crap....

All I want is my hair to be thicker.. If this could do that with one injection. My goodness.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:22 am

I'm anxious to see what's up in the consult.

Admit it... you know my avatar is clean.

astro_boy · Post by **astro_boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:28 am

Chore boy are you in Florida? Man I can't wait to hear about your consult too. I would seriously jump on a plane asap if this stuff works like in the video.

Yes I do like the graff

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:35 am

Yes I'm in Florida... apparently right down the road from where the consult is gonna be held.

Tampa Bay is the place to be... we have a little bit of everything out here.

astro_boy · Post by **astro_boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:17 pm

One thing that concerns me is I'm thinning over my entire top... and how much blood they would have to take out of me to get enough PRP for that kind of coverage :/

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:29 pm

I guess this company is Dr. Greco's PRP affiliate:

http://www.orogen.net/home.php

Notice how the first words out of thier mouthes on their home page are about reversal of hair minituarization.... kickass. They must have high hopes for it!

astro_boy · Post by **astro_boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:28 pm

guh... another thing to go insane waiting for. Too bad I can't start storing my PRP right now.

hulihoop · Post by **hulihoop** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:49 pm

Hey Chore Boy,

Can you PLEASE give us the all the details about your consult? I will get to Florida to see them at my earliest convenience if you are sold on it. Since you are in the neighbourhood the beers are on me...

Hulihoop

mrw · Post by **mrw** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:52 pm

calo38 wrote:Hey chore, can't wait to hear about your consult. So can I assume from this that they are already offering this treatment? If so, maybe a bunch of us can meet up and go out for a few beers after getting our heads pricked

LOL

Party at casa de Chore boy...BringYourOwnRoller!

I already looked up airfare to tampa. I think Ill give the AGHC 3 months then make my way to FL.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:32 pm

Hahah... bunch of drunk, balding mofos riding in the Cherokee, deep as #$%! on the way to dude's office ... hahahahahhaha

Seriously though, I'll keep ya'll updated.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:35 pm

Hahaha... yeah, It would definitely be BYOR... I'm not sharing my roller... hahhah

Good times.

astro_boy · Post by **astro_boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:50 pm

Hey CB, are you going to make up a list of questions to ask the doc? Might be a good idea, I always forget stuff I want to ask. You could probably get some good stuff to ask from the posters here.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:06 pm

Thought about it... also thought about going in there a lil' too heavy-handed and wigging him out. Physicians don't like to deal with people that appear obsessive.

But yeah, I'll definitely have my agenda in order when I go in there. Feel free to post questions you'd want me to ask him.

chore boy · Post by **chore boy** » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:25 am

Just confirmed my appointment... too bad I have to head into work right now or I could have had the consult today.

That sucks.

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