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Jacob

I don't know. It's always a Gamble with those guys.

I'll keep my day job.

That is good info though

Jacob

Matt...is it something that one can obtain then? Or at least somebody like Dr Y could? I'm looking to replace the gte in my custom topical..with something else. Main reason being the color of the topical..but maybe taking just gte out won't do the trick.

Jacob

Laminaria digitata is one of the ingredients in Elsom's Equiclear.. "Phycosaccharides are produced by Codif from Laminaria digitata, a brown seaweed made up of large molecules called polysaccharides. By reducing the size of the polysaccharide and attaching minerals to the shortened molecules, Codif ...

Jacob

Fred has been hinting about something like this to add to his product..but I doubt it's this one(still being tested etc). As for it being synthesized from a natural product..I've read that can be quite natural or not..depending on what is being synthesized and how it's done. I'm sure Dr. Y could mak...

Jacob

ents. (Don't you just hate it when you run out of space?

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http://www.nmanet.org/JMNA_Journal_Arti ... /OC816.pdf

Got this from chewbaca over at H.L.T: http://www.applepoly.com/blog

Jacob

How can that be...3 years from now? Do they say these things just to get investors or ???

I just can't see something like this getting approval that fast. Unless I'm missing something...

Jacob

http://www.lipoxidil.com has some products with no alcohol ...and http://www.elsomresearch.com uses no alcohol and pg in their products. I had a "minox alternative" whipped up using Elsom's Formulator. Their products aren't cheap though..although for me a little goes a long way.

Jacob

Aboynamedme..welcome to the forum!

http://www.elsomresearch.com also has a "nano" type shampoo. They've added rooibos to the latest batch.

Others I use are Morrocco Method...Lamas..& Sweet Sunnah.

I also refuse to do minox and propecia

Jacob

Have you thought about using a topical or topicals along with the comb? I realize the cost of things and the time involved and the fact that some don't like to use topicals..but I've always thought ppl should use more than one thing when attacking our problem. Sorry..I haven't used the comb so I'm n...

Jacob

I think they look the same too.

Jacob

I dunno Sam. It might say "face it" somewhere in the literature

Jacob

Also known as Blood of the Dragon- as found in Morrocco Method's hair gel as well as just recently being added to their shampoo. "Studies have shown that procyanidins are the major constituents of Sangre de Drago (~90% of dried weight),several of which have been characterized as novel proanthocyanid...

Jacob

They might give you or sell you a sample size of it. Wouldn't hurt to ask. Keep in mind the stuff does have a pumpkin type scent to it..at least to me. I guess some would call it a seaweed/cinnamon combo scent.

Jacob

Yeah..it would be a good one. I'll have to see if he can add it to the formulator or if it can be requested when formulating something. Thanks

Jacob

It sounds like it's TB4. From what I remember of the TB4 discussions way back(at Hairsite)..even the NIH metioned TB4 and something else as the end product that would possibly be used in a topical. Getting TB4 and making your own topical..as we've learned..doesn't seem to be working too well. Beside...

Jacob

Hey, sorry if I asked you this before but is there alcohol or glycol in your "minox alternative" topical? Do you think it would be good for someone with a sensitive scalp like me? Is it really possible to bypass the use of alcohol and glycol by using nanosomes? Anything that you could tell me would...

Jacob

Panacea Biotec in-licenses novel technology from NIH for hair growth Source: IRIS (09 August 2005) Panacea Biotec (Q, N,C,F)* Ltd has in licensed a peptide based technology for alopecia management from the National Institute of Health, USA. The patent protected technology for actin- binding peptide(...

Jacob

Yep..I have no complaints. I may add/delete things in my next batch though(see my post about white tea).

There has to be someone else out there who's used the Formulator. I'm surprised nobody is posting about it. Maybe they went with Fred's topical instead(also made by Elsom).

Jacob

White tea caught my interest awhile back after reading this: What may be even more exciting and novel is white tea, the immediate processing progenitor to green tea... That was taking from here: http://www.ffnmag.com/ASP/247/Display-Article ..I'll post the section on green tea and hairloss: Green Te...

Jacob

Sam..get a trial going on for that stuff.

Wish these companies would do that ...

Jacob

I don't know how much it costs...but here's something else one could take if they want to go this route: http://tinyurl.com/96pos From another website: Triarco Industries, Inc. announces very encouraging results of a pilot clinical trial for their patented product Alphastat, which inhibits 5-alpha r...

Jacob

I wonder about topical use though. I wanted white tea in my custom topical and will probably demand

it next time.

Jacob

I'm still using the glut/sod EquiClear from Elsom Research. Oxicell would be my backup though. Ingredients for the Super Oxi-Cell: Active Ingredients: Glutathione, SOD, Taurine, Cystine, Cysteine, Glutamic Acid, Glycine, Boswellia, Green tea polyphenols, Vit. B6, Niacin, Vit. E, NAC, Sam-e, Coq10, A...

Jacob

Some more info from them: Ingredients: DEIONIZED WATER, PROPRIETARY APPLE PROCYANIDINS 4%, DENATURED ALCOHOL, ALOE LEAF EXTRACT, ASCORBYL PALMITATE, TOCOPHEROL, RETINYL PALMITATE PROPYLENE GLYCOL, FRAGRANCE When we first looked at the original lab formula that grew new hair in the clinical trials, w...

Jacob

Rooibos I know has been posted about before. But here it is again(from lipoxidil.com): Rooibos has very potent anti-inflammatory and antioxidant properties.Quercetin is the major in vitro active component of rooibos. Studies were initiated by Cosmetochem International Ltd. at an independent laborato...

Jacob

Hey Sam, The formula feels good...maybe a little warmth after applying it but otherwise no irritation etc. It's smooth...kind of like a hand lotion I guess. Not too thick and not too runny(although I know some prefer their topicals to be like water). Absorbs very well...and smells a lil of ginger, w...

Jacob

http://www.applepolyphenols.com/suppliers.htm "This new formulation contains 400% more apple procyanidins than the one used in the hair growth studies, and is said to be stronger than Medicated Mohkatsurin PB, the commercial formula from Japan. A limited supply of the prototype is now available at h...

Jacob

Just a little update. Am using the product I had formulated by Elsom Research. Ingreds are: Oil bases: medium chain triglycerides Essential oils: *ginger oil Botanical extracts: *apple peel extract *gingko leaf *gota kola *grape seed ***green tea *licorice root *milk thistle seed [psyllimarin] *rooi...

Jacob

Some in these forums are taking this. http://www.natur-leaf.com/sosonkin-testimonial.asp large number of studies have looked at the effectiveness of sitosterols, which is the primary ingredient of the Natur-Leaf product that we have used in our medical practice since February 2000. Sitosterols raise...

Jacob

A little off topic but found it interesting. Maybe they can make em so they target hair follicles. Yeah.... http://www.theroyalgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050622/BUSINESS/50622010 Nanofoods may change the way we eat -----------------------------------------------------------------------...

Jacob

hey trish, what is this i just read about building a tolerance to these drugs? i've been reading everywhere that you build a tolerance to minox in about 2 years and it loses its effectiveness after that at which point your hairloss continues. about fin i've read most develop a tolerance to it withi...

Jacob

Yeah that's another way to go about it. I guess I'm hoping for a synergy(did I spell that right?) effect. That and most things are to be used in smaller concentrations anyway. I'd rather have it all in one topical than apply things separately like some do.

Jacob

Thanks to Kofi over at altbaldspot for this. Another reason why I'd like the apple peel extract in my next topical..even if gse and rooibos contain some. _________________________- Procyanidin B-2 is a TGF-B inhibitor, similar to ellagic acid, which has been shown to have hair growth promoting activ...

Jacob

Just wanted to thank you for the detailed response..and point out that nobody challenged you when I provided the link to your comments. So I don't think it's much of an issue anymore

Jacob

I'm thinking about doing this w/out the SOD but adding the apple peel extract. Applephenon was one of those that "raised" SOD levels..so with their own apple extract..and the rooibos and gse etc...it should be fine.

Jacob

Glad to hear that. How often are you using it now? Shouldn't be too costly if you use it once a week or every other week etc. And I'm not sure if the shampoo a few times a week could replace the topical(kinda doubt it)...but if it could then it'd be even cheaper.

Jacob

Sam..got an update?

Jacob

I posted this in Elsom's forum but would like some feedback here too if possible. I'm possibly going to have a minox alternative type topical made. I noticed SOD is availalbe so am looking at that...rooibos..and apple peel extract at the moment. Would like something that could be applied in the morn...

Jacob

Cool Sam...I hope it works for you in the long run. I still use mine once a week or so...still get that same feeling each time

Jacob

http://www.lipoxidil.com/ Lipoxidil.com is accepting applications again for a trial of the new product a-keratin-1.2. a-keratin-1.2 is designed to break up fibrosis and is only intended for complete bald spots.The treatment area should be complete bald for more than one year up to 5 years. Approved ...

Jacob

You know..Mr Flintstone? He's a medical student or something...from Europe..posts in German forums...seems to know his stuff. I'll try to find the info the next few days or maybe invite him here to discuss his topical and to expose himself...I mean who he is etc. :lol: Info from Fred: I created a la...

Jacob

:lol: I don't know yet. In the last day or so they've added more ingredients etc...so that makes it even harder to decide. Two things I know I'll use are the apple extract(similar to Applephenon..contains procyanidins etc) and the rooibos extract(a "study" is out on the use of that stuff). I want to...

Jacob

Well it is true that anything taken..too much of anti-oxidants..can be bad. Maybe I can dig up a discussion on that sometime. I've read that lack of enough glutathione can cause "bad sod" to build up or whatever they meant with their mumble jumble. There's a liposomal glut product out there...the on...

Jacob

Don't forget with liposomes it seems less minox would be needed. There's that one "study" that shows that at least...and other studies/info show the same with other ingredients.

Jacob

About the Saw Palmetto. There are two reasons really why I don't use it or other internals like it. 1) I prefer to go the topical route. Even when it comes to dht "inhibition" 2) This article sums up basically why I don't care to mess with it internally at the moment: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/ar...

Jacob

Fish oil is fine...krill oil is unique in that it has a high level of phospholipids..absorbs so well. "Krill oil has a high concentration of EPA and DHA in a unique phospholipid form that makes them highly bioavailable for use in the brain and cell membranes throughout the body" . It also has a very...

Jacob

I think you need a place to host them..then copy/paste the url between the "Img" things that you get when you click on "Img" above where you type when you're posting. Here's a google search on such hosting sites: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLD%2CGGLD%3A2004-44%2CGGLD%3Aen&q=free+ima...

Jacob

Guess I was typing while you were reading

Jacob

I didn't mean to scare you :( Saw Palmetto could be perfectly fine. If you do a search on it most places say there are no side-effects etc. But I have seen some post and others say that side effects can include those similar to what you'd get if you take propecia. This may all have to do with how ea...

Jacob

I'm glad they're bringing the gel back. I can see them wanting to please those who wanted a liquid..but good grief. I've never seen so many positives on a hair-loss product in my life..I don't know why they wanted to mess with it.

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