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I have two new in the box bottles of Spectral DNC-L for sale. Nothing wrong with them, I just switched back to foam. Plastic removed from the boxes, but otherwise mint. Complete with booklets. $80 shipped. Email if interested: shavetail81@yahoo.com

FYI: if it is applied to your skin it can be absorbed systemically. That's why topical fin never really materialized--most people who have tried it report the same side effects.

But what amount? The amount that absorbs is probably less since there isn't alcohol involved, but keto IS used for fungal infections as a cream...:

Ketoconazole - Clinical Pharmacology
http://www.drugs.com/pro/ketoconazole-cream.html
When Ketoconazole cream, 2% was applied dermally to intact or abraded skin of Beagle dogs for 28 consecutive days at a dose of 80 mg, there were no detectable plasma levels using an assay method having a lower detection limit of 2 ng/ml.

After a single topical application to the chest, back and arms of normal volunteers, systemic absorption of Ketoconazole was not detected at the 5 ng/ml level in blood over a 72-hour period.

Two dermal irritancy studies, a human sensitization test, a phototoxicity study and a photoallergy study conducted in 38 male and 62 female volunteers showed no contact sensitization of the delayed hypersensitivity type, no irritation, no phototoxicity and no photoallergenic potential due to Ketoconazole cream, 2%.

Read more: http://www.drugs.com/pro/ketoconazole-c ... z0p5yoWaEy

Hmmmm. So say the toxicity reports they submitted to the FDA. And no drug company has ever lied in their FDA trials, right?. But if that's so...then why is 2% prescription only??

Okay, that doesn't really answer your question, does it? That stuff makes me nervous, even though I've used both kinds of shampoo and the cream at various times. 'Course, I've tried just about everything even marginally safe. I'll save you some time: the only thing that's ever really and truly worked for me was topical spiro and that %&$! is so toxic it is just plain scary. I actually had a bout of shingles while using it--at 27! My doctor was baffled until spiro came up: it can be used for immunosupression. Aint life a kick in the balls?

Bear in mind that coal tar shampoos have been banned in some countries (Germany?) for their carcinogen risk. FYI. Still, most stores in the US carry their own store-brand. I know Meijer's does.

I respectfully request that you not put words in my mouth. You just prove your own ignorance of the subject at hand if go around throwing labels on people. I am NOT a Libertarian. As I've already said, return government to it's constitutional cage, and you'll enjoy the outcome much more than having ...

You know Saber28, what anarchists like you never have is a replacement plan. Your solution is to yank the Government (capital G) out of...well, everything and 'let it collapse.' Friend, you'd be one of the first to scream when the Clockwork Orange gangs kick in your door and rape your family. And ...

We have no money pay for healthcare for sick, broke tax payers who have had their jobs shipped to Mexico by corporate interests hiding behind the GOP, NAFTA and the WTO (the first W of which should be for Wal-Mart, not World). But we didn't blink at the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, total cost ...

Having done this a few times, I'll say that I don't think it likely that shaving your head will 'damage' your scalp with the blade, as implied above, though most shaving creams have some pretty funky stuff in it. The last one I bought had propane in it for some reason. That's not so good for the ...

Huh. I never put a lot of thought into the Switchable Zones when I was building mine because, other than the low number of diodes I really wasn't sure at the start that I could pull the wiring together at ALL. So...keep it simple. But I'm thinking I may have to scrap together the cash for another fifty diodes soon--I have the holes drilled and available power for that many. Cost and sheer time stand in the way. Tough times.

What I'm still unclear about re: soreness is exactly where this sensation originates. Does it seem to be skin deep, or down to muscle and tendon level? And of what duration? Only during, or only after, or coming on during the treatment, etc. Something is hovering in the background with subcutaneous fat--has to be. The thin or bare areas of my scalp literally are recessed closer to the skull; I can feel the difference, nothing imaginary. This is some kind of damage.

I paid for my education by stocking groceries (and sadly, three degrees later, I'm still there--God Bless America!). A few years back I ran into a clause in OSHA law requiring employers to disclose the Material Safety Data Sheets of any and all chemicals a worker could potentially be exposed to, so I pulled up the manifest and ran down the MSDS on the refrigerant used in the walk in cooler I spend a chunk of my day in. Just one of those things you do to freak yourself out--and at the time I was finishing my bachelor's and wasn't planning to stay much longer anyway. Long story short, one of the listed possible effects of this freon-like substance was "Defatting of the Skin." This is all wildly off topic, but it's stuck with my none the less. Is that what LLLT does, repairs some of the damage wrought by air conditioners, soaps, hair sprays, alcohol-based minoxidil, %&$! in the air, etc. etc.? Random thought.

Chemical is a possibility, but I would suppose mechanical is as well. We know for example that male pattern loss follows the galea tendon for unclear reasons. The layer of subcutaneous fat around this area in particular diminishes with time, leaving the scalp sitting directly on this tendon itself ...

jdp710—I didn’t mean that as a personal attack on you; just airing on the topic itself.

OMG—are you saying in a nutshell that tissue exposed to laser light at 6nm, 5mW must absorb the energy for twenty minutes to reach a cumulative exposure of 5 joules? Anything less being less than 5 joules, while ...

Well, this won't be popular, but I suppose it must be gotten out of the way:

Okay, 'pretty well determined' meaning what , exactly? NOTHING in LLLT is 'proved' in any way at all; even the medical research is anecdotal. Distance from scalp, duration, frequency, wavelength, 'required joules,' where ...

The laser's are OMG's recommended brand, the Aixiz 6nm, 5mW except for ten around the edges that I took from an old ten diode unit I'd bought a few years ago. (same classification). I removed the lens caps, popped the lens out and then returned the caps because of the helmet material--a little force ...

FYI: you can get Vitamin E oil pretty cheap just about anywhere to use as a topical and it's probably just as good. Target carries it in the US.

Hey guys, I just wanted to share my first stab at an LLLT helmet: The Laser Hard Hat

The project began when I found an old lineman's hard hat at a thrift store for $2 and thought of OMG. Using his website (thanks for all the information mate!) I started amassing the other materials. A modest 60 ...