basically the ih top6 plus a few other supps. Lasering as per usual alltho cut down to 12min 3 times a week. And am trying out some new topicals soon. Nothing worth menchoning yet except my health after qutting fin. I was on it for 4 years and had bad sexual sides. Ive been off fin for about 3months...

Hey man, just checking in to see what the latest is as far as lasers go with your research. Im still using my 500 dioder and am planning on some unique wounding experiments. I was wondering if you could point me in the direction of DIY laser devices for hair removal. Has anyone built anything for th...

i beleive in lasers 100%. The evidence is there. The problem is that using lasers alone isnt gonna get rid of the fibrotic tissue/calcium deposits etc that are also going on under the scalp. My plan is to get the skin back to its non mpb state and thats when i beleive lasers will be more beneficial....

I used it for about 10months and am planning on using some other things to combat my hairloss. I got good results as far as hair quality and reduced shedding when using it but in the world of hairloss im looking for more and more. I still use it today and may not sell it as i mite still use it with ...

'If it works'....... If it truly does work than i dont see why he wouldnt offer it to someone on a large hairloss forum considering he says they are making them for hairloss now. Also if his a wholesaler of this product than wouldnt he go to the effort of learning about the device? I can see why eve...

all good points but againt. He doesnt want to 'move' bone. He wants to flatten it. And he claims it only taks a tiny bit of change for big hair regrowth.

Difuse thinning i think would be due to blood supply as there is a bigger capillary network around the sides of the head.

Been reading some articles. It looks pretty interesting, just curious if it has been discussed in our forum or if anyone has a strong opinion on the levels of each affecting hair.

i think people mis-understand the skull expansion theory. The theory isnt that your whole skull expands evenly. The emenecies at the front and back (a rather large area of the mpb scalp grow grow lumpy bone growths. Just feel around your temple area (if youve receded) and you'll see what i mean. The...

also my thinning is alot worse around my right temple. To add onto that my bone sticks out alot more right at the point where the hair has receded to on the right side.

Im still having trouble if anyone can help. I need to make a mould of my scalp that covers the whole norwood 6/7 mpb area and also covers the forhead and down the sides burns. The mould also has to be VERY solid as it will have to withstand a fare bit of pulling and pushing pressure. Im really stuck...

Try feeling around your hairline/forhead. You will probably feel a very slight difference but i can deffently feel it. You should feel the bone has pushed out where ever you have receded. It will only be a little bit but it will go from the widows peak.... to the the temples and right down the hairl...

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thanks for the post hapyman. You basically said exactly what is in my mind and what i plan to do so thanks for clarifying it for me. Well if all is true according the the ebook than the bone after only a few months will have started changing shape and he also states that it only takes a small amount...

Im in the middle of experiementing with a skull shaping device. Anyway i need to make a mould of my scalp (the mpb area) that is strong enough to have continuess pressure applied to it. I remember overmachogrande making a tin foil mould with multiple layers and was wondering if that would work with ...

anxious1, good point on the muscle/skin etc. But it could also be the bone affecting the muscles that is affecting the capillary network. Either way im pretty sold on his theory and would like to put it to the test over a few months (maybe 6 be sure). Anyway a helmet worn at night with thicker peice...

Hey everyone/anyone. So ive read thru the whole ebook 'here today, hair tomorrow' which is based on the whole skull expansion theory. I have become a strong beleiver since reading that skull expansion is the root cause of hairloss. (you really gotta read this book before calling it quackery). Anyway...

I understand your point but to counter that you must remember that a person born with a big head will have more capillarys and skin built to suit the size of his head. So it would only take so much expansion to happen before his hair would fall out. A person born with a small head has the same skin ...

so i read the ebook 'here todyay, hair tomorrow' and have become very keen on this approach as it makes alot of sense to me. Anyway his exercises take 1 hour a day with compression/massage teqniques on certain bones and over time the skull can very slowly reshape. He also explains how the skull only...

It covers all these question.... Q1. Why does remnant hair sometimes continue to grow within the MPB region despite extensive hair loss all around it? Q2. What causes the same male pattern profile (horseshoe shape) to develop in almost all severe cases of androgenic alopecia? Q3. How can DHT be link...

Ive been reading a few articles explaining how dht is needed for manly features such as facial hair and deep voice etc. So my theory or question is that would more dht be better for the hair IF it wasnt getting stuck under the scalp. For example, if bentonite clay really draws out the oils/dht than ...

histogen, follica, intercytex. Only the big names would make the news. Let us know tho it sounds intresting

cheers man. If clay/scaplure is the real deal.... Do you think scalpure would be that good over a normal bentonite clay? It seems to hold alot of promise and thats just going by my own applications. My hair is feeling great and scalp condition is good also. Its probably something that has to be kept...

i know what you mean. Im border line where i can still pull off an ok full head of hair with the right styling but eventually the temples will look too combed over. Alltho since using clay ive noticed my hair is really soft and smooth and seems to flow evenly over the thinning areas. Something kind ...

What are peoples thoughts on dermarolling pre clay? Would this draw too much oil out? Or would it be good at the start as there may be alot of dht build up????

thanks for the recipes.


Ive been playing around with my clay mix also. I sometimes add some vitamin c powder and sometimes add copper peptides topical. Would adding a biotin capsule be good?

Im looking to buy an all natural shampoo i can use up to 3 times a day. It must be all natural, benefit the hair/scalp and be cheap as i shower a fare bit

bentonite clay for drawing out dht. Its good for the itch and really good if you've been sweating all day. Its said to draw out the dht. Dont know wether i beleive it or not but theres alot of talk about one brand calleed scalpure. I just use an ordanary clay gfor few weeks and it seems to work well

mm id like to get a 100% answer on this now. I personally think once the product is dry, thats when it has pulled all dht etc (or impurities whatever). Alltho if anxious1 is right than id like to know too. Maybe it draws more out while it is moist/wet. Did the guy form scalpure answer such a question?

im not sure mate but mine gets pretty dry after about 15 mins of application. Also once its dry if i do scalp exercises i can really feel alot of itching/pin point feelings on my scalp. It almost makes me think that the itching we get is the hairs trying to grow through and technically it could be a...

Finastaride is basically a drug that cuts off male hormones. Take it and you slowly lose your male attributes. You may not notice sides but they are happenening and that can be worse than not noticing side affects. I think lasers with bentonite clay may be a good combo. Bentonite clay is said to pul...

Hey man, im 23 and consider myself pretty young. Ive been fighting since about 18. Started with fin and minox. #$%! up my sex life up till now and basically ruined me mentally. It did save most of my hair tho. I just quit cold turkey and cant wait for things to get back on track. It will be a long t...

Today is a pretty big day for me as i finally got the guts to quit fin. Ive thrown out my last few tablets am feeling a great deal of releif. Its been years of bad sexual sides and i finally got the courage to make a GOOD decision for my body. Anyway im aware im up for a long recovery period so im m...

what is zix and where do u get it?

Ive noticed since i started on fin this...... Sure my hairloss slowed ALOT but my hair never really grew more than a few inches. So in one aspect i think it was good but as far as hair quality it sucked. Ive also noticed i barely get and facial hair like i use to. I also have alot of chest hair whic...

I guess what im saying is that maybe surface dht may have to be removed???

So im about to completely quit fin now and am gettin a bit worried about what my hairloss is gonna do in the future. I am on lasers, vitamin c topical and a few other things. I stopped shedding but my scalp is allways really dry. So im thinking now i may need some of this dht as ive read dht is actu...

found this article that says dht is needed for hairgrowth but dht's affect on bone growth also can cause miniturisation of the hair. Its just wierd as lately i am using lasers, bentonite clay etc and my hair was looking real good. (it use to be really oily) but now its really really dry. Im thinkng ...

Read something about histogens first trial on humans. Just want to see if anyones been following any of the big companys and can shed any good news...

I seem to have my hair pretty stable these days. Hairloss has slowed down alot etc but ive noticed my scalp is allways really dry and flakey. My hair is actually really dry too and grows really slow. So i guess what im asking is dht needed at all for hair? OR How does dht work in someone without mpb...

I think im gonna take the plunge and shave my head real soon. I was just wondering once i do this is wether i should change up my regimen? Obviously topicals are gonna be alot easier to apply but what shampooing etc? how often?

Also will shaving too short cause the hairs to die off?

I think im gonna take the plunge and shave my head real soon. I was just wondering once i do this is wether i should change up my regimen? Obviously topicals are gonna be alot easier to apply but what shampooing etc? how often?

Also will shaving too short cause the hairs to die off?

Summer is coming in and my best mate thinks we should start at the solarium.

Anyway just after some opinions on tanning beds/ UV rays on our hair or body health in general.

Hapyman and overmachogrande....


How long did it take after quitting fin before these sides went away. I mean side affects like depression, just feeling different etc.

Ive been low dosing and am almost ready to completely drop it

Nar, sad to say i stopped doing it a while ago.

I kept it up for about 2 months with the blood pressure cuff and it did seem to be working but it was followed by a pretty big shed and like most things, a shed can scare you away (even tho it mite be doing you good =()

So sorry i cant give a defenite answer.


My latest has been dermarolling while adding vitamin c powder (the pure fresh %&$!). Its reduced itch etc and im using it based on a skin study that said it increased derma papilla size. My hair is looking great since starting and shedding has stopped. Fingers crossed.

I also have all the gear to make a suction cap for my whole scalp but havent had time to put it all togethor.

Number10ox....You probably have a better idea than me to be honest. I ordered my ascorbic acid from an ebay store and your right about it being white (meaning its stable and still potent). It does have a bit of a stinging affect. If i dermaroll first than apply it doesnt hurt so much but i can deffe...

Im not looking at any products as the vitamin c has to be stable. It oxidides very fast so im using it in its most purest form

Its early days, ive only been bentonite claying and using my pure topical c for a week but i was going thru a pretty major shed leading up to it. I must say since adding both my itch and shed has completely normalized. Could have started from lowering fin dosage but i must say my hair is looking rea...

OVERMACHO.... Ive been experimenting the last week with pure vitmain c ascorbic acid in a little bit of water and emu oil. By the 17 minute mark it is the only time that ive wanted to remove my helmet (thats how soor it was). Vitamin c is suppose to increase derma papilla size. There is deffently so...

Ill be using a vitamin c topical ive made up. Let me stress tho it is STABLE ascorbic acid in powder form. Peer studys have shown vitamin C that is STABLE to increase the density of the derma papilla (this was done on a study for skin) but i think it still applys. The vitamin c also works on inflamm...

I remember as a little kid and thru my teen years i had a big white bulb on the end (about 4mm long on the root of the hair).


I started to notice hairloss around 17 and now at 23 i only get a very small 1mm long bulb.

Either im removing whatever that is and its a good thing that im removing it

OR

That little white bulb is needed somehow.



Personally i think it is sebum/dht etc stuck in the derma papilla and when the hair falls out over the years, more of it gets stuck inside the derma papilla making hairloss worse and worse.


Thats why im about to start with a pure vitamin c topical. Its shown to increase diameter of the derma papilla and its very well knows for killing free radicals and all other bad %&$!.